[Dravenguild]

^ I agree with you too a whole lot of that extent, however call me crazy but I have a few peeves with these rumours.

1. Combat squads, I know you don't have to use them, they have a lot of dexterity but I would suspect they would get swamped easily. When you fight as many swarm armies as I do divide and conquer is out of the question.

2. Trait system, I know horribly OP and broken, but was it really? All Orks now have Furious charge "built in" so why couldn't say, the Crimson fists have preferred enemy and furious charge as their doctrines and whatnot? It's really not that big of a deal, seeing as marines almost never charge into CC unless pinned against impossible odds or backed by fighters (AKA the Assaulty marines/ Veterans).

With a little innovation and reworking I'm sure that it would be fun to have a chapter of marines that actually adhere to the training they undergo specifically to enhance fighting capabilities.

3. The Ass-can spam, Yes I do believe this is horridly broken as well (Fought an entire 4,000 point ravenwing, yet I truimphed!) I believe rending should just be taken away completely from the Assault cannon or reworked to not be so confusing in new editions.

The Ap-2 wound and +D3 Pen? Whats the point anymore? Instead, the fact that the fire rate is so focused, it should instead add +1 to the damage table result.

4. I'm not entirely sure, but are they taking away the ability for ICs to have retinues? If so I am mortally pissed! (Tell me 626! PM ME!!!!!)

5. Powefist "supposed" changes, whats the point if they can no longer gain a bonus? It was worth when you had more attacks, but the nerf its receiving is not worth the 25~30points on a sergeant for that crap excuse.

6. Armory nerf, I"m not extremely mad but I wanted to keep Bionics and other things like auspexes. (they were absent from the Chaos dex' so I assume they're reserved for new IG)

7. All in all, it feels like they are taking more away from the game's awesome customization and feel while contributing very stale and stagnant rules. It just doesn't feel like my space marines are unique anymore, being stripped of ALL special rules.