[JoeGuardsman]

Definitely didn't offend me at all. I realize now that I didn't fill out the ideas in my initial post and it came out too much like the simple Fantasy is better than 40k. I actually like the 4th edition rule set a lot and I think it makes for a fair game in terms of movement, shooting and hand to hand.

40k and Fantasy and I'll throw in chess can't be compared fairly but the feeling I get when I'm playing a game can. This just comes up to a matter of opinion. In fantasy having to manage a full battle plan while micro-managing the more complicated movement rules in fantasy is my idea of strategy but the movement rules in fantasy can be viewed as convoluted/confusing and take the fun away for some people. In 40k I can manage a battle plan which is fun but I don't really have to do that much micro-management. This makes 40k much more fast paced and by all means 40k should be like this since it is working with loose squad formations so I can't even ask for complicated movement rules. Like I said however I do like the rule system.

I don't like playing against competitive army lists. I think the codex writing in 40k is much worse than the army book writing in fantasy. I agree with you that there are some breakable books in fantasy and Skaven is at the top of the list (Lizardmen are up there too). 40k books for whatever reason leave themselves wide open to fairly broken lists and there are certain match ups in certain terrain that I don't even have to go through the deployment phase to know I'm probably going to lose. That is my problem with 40k really is that if Fantasy is decided a lot of the time in the deployment phase, 40k is decided in army selection.

That was my point. Here is some more info about where my current feelings are coming from. I was playing 40k just fine last year during the Medusa campaign and I played it all during my stay in Japan. Also I'm a good 40k player and I can make a power list. My Big-shoota orks from the last book never lost a game while I was in Japan and the two games when I was home. When I came back I went back to my Guard and came back to a GW store where every competitive player was playing Death/Raven or Raven/Death, Mech Eldar, Tyranids (too broken in my opinion) and two Lash Chaos and when I face these armies in a city it is all over.

I just don't want to play against these armies that have taken advantage of every poorly written rule and special character. Also I don't want my Guard army to have to take as many plasma guns as it has to. There aren't that many plasma guns in a whole regiment, the Dark Angels can't afford to take that many casualties to the Ravenwing and Deathwing, Slaanesh sorcerers aren't in every warband. I dunno, I just think it is time for a change in the type of 40k games I play. It just isn't fun competitively anymore for me. Only problem for me is that I have to help a friend prepare for the 40k GT.