Yeah in the original 3rd ed printing they struck first no matter what unless going against a model that also struck first then you dice off... in the 2006 reprint they made it so that you strike at initiative order which isn't worth the 10 points... they made it from way too cool for 10 points to crap for 10 points... i mean it is good if you jump into some terrain but how often do you jump into terrain and need to strike first? mostly if you have a good chance to die against them then they are going to be running at you and if you can kill them easily and not worry about casualties then you are running at them and it won't matter if they go first...
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