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Originally Posted by Brother_Ambrose  A few pointers...Combat patrols are capped at 400 points. Maybe you have speacial rules...I don't know for sure. Anyway,the auspex and purity seals on the codificer are a waste. Use the points elsewhere. I'm pretty sure the tactical squad can not have furious charge. The assault marines cant either unless you use a trait and take them as elites. @ 18 points each, it's going to hurt alot to lose them.... I like the second list much better. The scouts will infilrate, which is a great advantage. 4 landspeeders (make sure they are ALL ac/hb) will lay waste to almost anything. As mentioned though, make sure that theyre all using assault cannons and heavy bolters, as the assault cannon is the best weapon in the marines arsenel. The multi melta is useless compared to it, espeaciall in this situation with 11 armour being the highest you'll see. The assault cannon rends, so it will rip through rhinos and infantry. Even against a land raider/monolith with AV 14 the multimelta has an 11 % chance of a penetrating hit, whereas the assault cannon has a 30 % chance. The multi melta/heavy flamer should never be taken. | See you have the common problem that many SM gamers have... the Assault cannon is not the end all best weapon and the solution isn't to take as many as possible the multi-melta is still the better choice against tanks... with the speed you can easily get within 12" and then you get 2d6 armor pen. and it is much cheaper and if they end up taking out the melta then you still have the flamer to use on troops. in your example you are forgetting something key, the melta hits on 3's and with 2d6 armor pen. you have a 33% chance to penetrate. with the assault cannon you have a .0925% chance per shot... you have better odds with the one melta shot and with 4 assault cannon shots your odds are you hit with 2.6 shots and you will get .43 6's out of those 2.6 and then you need a 2... and even then you can glance... a multi melta always penetrates except against skimmers
all in all the assault cannon CAN take tanks out but the melta and the missile launcher and las cannon are BUILT to take tanks out so they will always be better.
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