yea the stupid newbs grow up. if they stick with the hobby, they, like all of us, will turn into stupid vets

Hairy yahoo with the smackdown. ive been involved with warhammer since the end of third edition, so i havnt seen much change at all in that area. but again, rumours and speculation will have to be seen if they turn out to be real. defilers without indirect isnt that bad. some people say they are gaining fleet of giant mechanical claws. who knows.
im sure some vets were pissed when, in the new nids codex, the 'shoot the big ones' rule was removed. or the dark angels with the pre-arranged wargear. stuff like that.