[Lord Erak Grimnar]

Originally Posted by sjclem1

After talking to a few people, we came up with that same conclusion. However, instead of more heavy weapons we're looking into melta-bombs and possibly a plasma-cannon in the front line squads.

I don't know about the power fists or thunder hammers. I want to utilize my initiative to pound quickly and not end up being last in the round. Is the power fist worth losing the initiative?

In big squads were you have enough troops to take on the attack backs by the enemy you shold be able to use them effectively just make sure they dont have enough attacks to wipe out your squad orwould have to be really likely to. Which is harder for space marines but with black templars I know you can get some really big crusader squads of like 10 iniates 10 brethern (is that right?). Which basically nothing can really eat through the basic troops to get to the fists.