[masterofweirdness]

Originally Posted by Lord Commander Erus.

Well, play testing of the Black Saints list I submitted a while back felt, and indeed brought on many cries of, beardy cheese. So, in light of that... I have made them a full BA successor chapter from the cursed founding, with DA mix. C&C please! Some things are there for fluff, so comment on them anyway, and I will tell you why!

Will do, Erus.

Lord Crusader Adonis(Company Captain): 335 pts.
Lightning Claws, Jump Pack, Frag/Krak/Melta, Iron Halo
-Honor Guard: 180
3 Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, CCW, Jump Pack
2 Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Weapon, Jump Pack

Dude... packing on the points aren't we? Now, mind you, I don't have Codex BA (I really should, but I haven't managed to find the time to download it). But honestly like 400pts for... 6 models????

High Prelate Antonious the Warp Slayer(counts as Chaplain Lemartes): 305 pts.
Bolt Pistol, Jump Pack, Crozius Arcanum, Rosarius, Frag & Krak, Death Mask
-Honor Guard: 180
3 Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, CCW, Jump Pack
2 Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Weapon, Jump Pack


Total: 640 pts.

Hmm... once again, points wise this is expensive, but it is a special character...

Really though, I am shocked by how expesnive your command squads are... thats a lot of points 5 jump pack marines, even with the power weapons and all!

ELITES

Death Company: 80 pts.
D.C. Marine(10x): Frag, Krak, Bolt Pistol, CCW, Jump Pack
(Fearless, Feel No Pain, Furious Charge, Black Rage {all attacks = rending})

I can't comment, as you really need this guy... but perhaps getting a chaplain to lead them, that gives you more to start with, doesn't it?

Terminator Squad: 230 pts.
Sergeant: Storm Bolter, Power Sword,
Terminator(3x): Storm Bolter, Power Fist
Terminaotr: Assault Cannon, Power Fist,

This is solid.

Dreadnought: 150
Assault Cannon, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight, Missile Launcher, Twin-Linker Autcannon

Wait... how do you have 3 weapons??!!!! Assault Cannon, Missile Launcher, AND a twin-linked Autocannon!!!! If this is legal... umm... thats not fair, if it isn't, I assume no autocannon... and say it is good.

Veteran Assault Squad: 195 pts.
3x Veteran Assault Marines:Power Weapon, Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Jump Pack
2x: Bolt Pistol, CCW, Jump Pack, Frag & Krak

This squad is expesnive, but is used right it can own space marines... since you'll get 9 power attacks on the charge. Use'd carefully, and it'll be a pretty good unit, since you really only have to kill one SM squad to make your points back.

Total: 1265, 625 section.

TROOPS

Tactical Squad (2x): 235 pts.
Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Weapon
Space Marine: Plasma Gun, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak
Space Marine: Plasma Cannon, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak
Space Marine (7x): Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak

2 squads of this, right? Okay...

The only thing I'd say is I don't prefer powerfists, and dislike plasma cannons... and don't like combine assault and heavy weapons in one squad. Could you explain your tactics on this?

Assault Squad(2x): 275 pts.
Veteran Sergeant: Power Fist, Bolt Pistol, Frag, Krak, Jump Pack
Assault Marine(9x): Bolt Pistol & CCW, Frag & Krak, Jump Pack

These squads seem good. If you can, I'd get some flamers and/or plasma pistols though.

Total: 2285, 1020 Section

FAST ATTACK

Land Speeder Squadron: 275 pts.
Speeder(2x): Assault Cannon, Heavy Bolter
Speeder: Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher

Total: 2610, 275 Selection

Hmm... I'd suggest you separate these three landspeeders into 3 squads... as it makes it harder for your opponent to kill them off, as he has to use 3 units to kill all of them. With them in one squad, then you can have them all die quite fast. No to mention lose 2 and the remaining one no longer counts as a scoring unit!

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad: 285 pts.
Veteran Sargeant: CCW, Bolt Pistol , Frag & Krak
Devastator(4x): Missile Launcher, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak
Devastator(5x): Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak

This is a solid choice. Though, if you have the points, I'd suggest 2 lascannons.

Baal Predator: 140 pts.
Twin-Linke Assault Cannons, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight, Over-Charged Engine, Extra Armor, Heavy Bolter Sponsons,

I love the Baal predator. Both me and my friend agree it is the most kickass idea for a tank!

Other than the little super expenive HQs (you have, almost 20% of your points in 2 models!) this army is really quite good. I would not want to face it.

Oh, and once again, whats up with the 3 weapon dread?