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Originally Posted by That_Guy  And why hate the vox experiment? Is it because when the head honcho drops, you lose the major benifit? That is true, but think of how it plays on the enemy. He'll want that group dead at any means possible. He'll focuse all sorts of his hard hitting specialists onto your commander. This lifts a lot of preassure from your troops.
I could talk more about the benefits and tactical applacations, but im getting off topic. |
good points about the vox! still though, the main reason i hate the vox-system set-up is simple; it's easy to break down.
i do however love facing a vox-system set-up! i have no problem sacrificing a 36pts remnent squad w/flamer to land and burn-up that master vox!
flame first, then rapid fire & use torrent of fire to force a wound onto the vox-caster... (if he even survives the burning!)
or if it's really nessessary, i'll drop a 55pts sentinel w/heavy flamer + armoured crew compartment. he works even better if the guard player has been careless in his/her delpoyment by not supporting the master-vox; as next turn i can either burn up some more stuff, or else just hold a unit of guardsmen in combat indefinately! (woe betide the guard player if i can reach another command squad as then the officer can't provide his Ld bonus once in assault!)
okay, so marines players tend to suck at bringing down a vox-system, but if they've got a drop pod, then you're toast...
keep in mind too, a unit never has to actually kill it's own victory pts worth of enemies to be effective. hell, the last time i played my salamanders, i sent a 200pts assault squad to burn up that master-vox caster. sure it's about all they killed, but when they drop most of the guard army itself to Ld7, it ment i had an easy time forcing squads to run off with just a few casulties!
and yes mikeal; buying the grenadiers doctrine gets you grenadiers. buying the storm troopers doctrine gets you storm troopers. you don't need one to take the other!
cheers!