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Old 11-24-2006   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by newpaintbrush View Post
God. Sloppy question.

When you ask about "transports for a shooting army", that is different from asking if you are asking about "Should I take Rhinos for some or all of my tactical squads", which is in turn different from even asking "Should I take Rhinos to TRANSPORT some or all of my tactical squads".

Do you understand the difference? No? Well I suppose I will explain, because at LEAST you used decent grammar and spelling in your post. And at least you mentioned something about the context of your army. If you had written "Transports, are they worth it?" . . . gah.

OKAY!

1. If you take Rhinos, that is one thing. Razorbacks, another, Land Raiders, yet another. Land Raider Crusaders, still another. All perform very specific roles to complement your army.

2. That means that you NEVER TAKE TRANSPORTS FOR YOUR ARMY, do you understand? NEVER. You take units that can be used to transport other units. But you should NEVER think of a transport as just "transport".

3. What does that mean? You can use a Razorback for fire support, obviously. But you can also use it to block LOS, or to obscure a vehicle behind it. You can use it to tank shock to break up an enemy assault. There are all sorts of stupid little fun things you can do, and just saying "transports" locks you into thinking about your Razorback the wrong way.

SO, should you take Rhinos?

MAYBE! (which means nothing at all!)

because if you are running shooty Marines with tanks, you at LEAST need the Rhinos to block LOS to your Land Speeders or Predators or Vindicators or whatever. Even if you don't use the Rhinos to bus your Marines around, Rhinos are still pretty good for blocking/obscuring.

But if you're going for a mass infantry army, you won't need Rhinos at all, because you're using Assault Marines, deep striking Terminators, and infiltrating Scouts to grab objectives, while using massed infantry firepower to hunt out the enemy.

SO it depends!

And next time put in more info about your army! Because a reply can only be as helpful as the information you put into it. Imagine you walk into a restaurant, and say "I want food." What do you think, that they're gonna make every dish and set it up for you? They're gonna wait for you to order something on the menu.
Not really true. You dont want to think of transports as just LOS blockers cause then you are simply just buying terrain. Though Im sure some people didnt pick up on the fact that this is a shooty army, so I could only think that you take that "Shooting Power" and run them up in transports.

This:
A) gets weapons within range faster (more importantly meltaguns, or double tapping plasma gun)
B) gets a better advantage point (so that you can move around people using Rhinos to block your LOS)
C) Taking objectives too, the problem most shooty armies have is that they are "dug in" too much into cover and arent mobile at all, so it makes sense to have at least a few transports, cause you dont want to loose too many points to transports i.e. LAndraiders or even Ravorbacks

Further more, If you go into a Resturant and say "I want Food" then they will make a whole bunch of dishes. This is Great because it lets you get a sample of everyone's opinion and view points in different situations. I mean this isnt a food place, but rather a safe haven for ideas and thoughts, but SOME (cough cough) think that they can control it with egotistical views and insults..... We are here to have fun and shares tons, but we also cant get off track which is why Im ending this conversation, but hopfully I dont have to end this great thread.

All salute the Grammar Nazi, for he is watching above my post (literally) Hail und Sieg (consider this a warning)
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