[Heroka Vendile]

Originally Posted by Lord Commander Erus

YEt again i'd like to know how you know for sure the specialist games range is gone forever.

I never said Specialist Games was gone, just that the bitz service has been completly removed and you can now only buy complete models/warband/etc.

And whilst that does suck (I was considering Inquisitor or BFG).. GW is a buisness, and when profits drop, you cut off the lowest earners that you can. That being, Specialist Gaming.

GW has made a promise to maintain Specialist Games into the considerable future, they aren't going away at all, and as has been seen, they are slowly giving each SG system an new updated rulebook - Inquisitor, Warmaster & Bloodbowl are the only ones yet to receive this (ignoring BoFA cause thats so new).

Don't feel discouraged by it now being more effort to source parts for certain conversions.

Plus, I don't remember them ever selling GK psycannons 5x at a time at a bundled price discount, nor a Deathwatch Veteran upgrade KIT rather than buying it all separate (again, at a discount), or innumerable other things.

While the content in and of itself is the same old hat and dance bits wise, the packaging is different, and the price is also cheaper. So you've no grounds/rights to call is poor anything, nor do I remember a convention of hobbyists giving you the right to speak for them.

Yes, I realise the bundles are quite good, often making a small saving on what it previously cost to buy the bitz separately. I call it poor because this new bitz packs range is vastly smaller than the previous system of probably the largest collection of purchasable archive metal models and parts provided by any business in the world.

Maybe for specialists gamers like yourself it is, but for those who do more converting in just 40k, it has potential. Granted, it's GW, so preliminary excitement about anything common sense/innovative should be cautious, lol!

If you look, you'll see that a very great number of the best conversions on Inquisitor models have been achieved by using 40K parts (especially obscure or archive pieces). Its not just SG players that are loosing out on choice, its everyone.

After all, who said, or where does it say, that these bits will be limited to old school ones? They might very well start coming out with packs of 4x heavy bolter servitors or the bits for 4x heavy bolter devs, etc.. That's where I see GW going with this.

I never said it would be limited to old sculpts, I specifically said that they will be expanding the bitz range with both packs of new sculpts and more packs of popular old sculpts.

Their annual shareholders meeting was not a happy one. They physically recognized the fact online bits stores and ebay were kicking their asses, and that they had to find a way to compete somehow and keep the lions share of the gamers spending within the company.

This to me, would signal the very beginning of just such one move.

As I said, business wise, it is a very clever move by GW that does have great potential so long as they grasp it and don't loose they're way. Starting over like this gives them the chance to make the Bitz service miles better than it ever was before.