hoods all depend on who's using them. the only guy to use them round me has a ld of 8 and all my guys are ld10.....hmm he has to get over mine so the lowest he can roll and hope to beat me is 4!!!! gk and sm with hoods bah just roll the dice and who ever is higher wins but remember they have to BEAT you not just tie. if tie you win!!!! mwahahahahahahahahhahahahahahha!!!!!

almighty tzeentch !
