[all-lucky7777]

Alright, alright I concede. Its still all just semantics.

So I'm out of ideas. How about this:

A baneblade isn't actually as impenetrable as a landraider (better rear armor) but It has structure points and equivelent armor and much, much bigger guns. If we are involving the Navy then a couple of Thunderbolts would have a easy time with a thunderhawk, simply becuase its slower and more importantly, only has ground firing weapons except for a whole bunch of heavy bolters in non-AA mounts and a few lascannons. However, a thunderhawk I think would do pretty well against a Baneblade becuase the BB would be rolling sixes to hit a thunderhawk. On the other hand, the baneblade has four guns it can hurt the thunderhawk with but the thunder hawk only has about three (did it have any lascannons? I don't remember), one of which is the turbolaser/normal battlecannon on the top of the fuselage, depending on whether were talking Forgeworld or old school.

Again, You can only fit so many men on a planet and the marines are likely to be churning out about as many men as the guard are, theres no limiting the speed at which they deploy. The guard has mass dropships, so they would be coming on in a large, slow unwieldy force while the space marine would drive their rhinos and thunderhawks and drop in to the middle of Guard armies, likely where the guard are actually deploying. With the number of powerarmored marines capable of being in the thick of it all the marines would probably win an infantry war. But I think they would have a hard time against Guard armor. A battle cannon isn't called a marine flyswatter for nothing. And Baneblades kill terminators. There are many times more baneblades than there are individual suits of termie armor.

As far as equipment goes, I think we have a good fight on our hands. But other than that, I have no idea. Perhaps I wasn't so out of ideas.

And this would be a good time to go to another forum where I don't annoy everybody.