[Dragoon King]

I love Oblits. Havocs, not so much. Havocs are slow, unless you put them in a Rhino, but still expensive. Oblits SHOULD be slow, but they DS. Your friend lost his unit because he made a bonehead move. He should have at least whittled down as many low AP weapons as possible before DS. Oblits aren't invincible, but very tough to kill unless you have the right weapons. I have made the same kinds of mistakes. Never rely on one unit to win a battle, you must use your forces combined. Now, when I do get my Oblits back (traded some a while back, built by a friend, slopped together) I will target enemy heavy armour. That is where they shine. Turbo boosting Nurgle Bikers and then DS Oblits within range to use 3 Multi-meltas? Tank problem gone. Just don't send them on a suicide run (unless your losing badly) and give them some support with say, Raptors. Tie up shooty enemy units in CC if possible, then hit them with Oblits. Heck, even Lesser Daemons could be used effectively like this, especially if you have Bikes with an Icon, as Daemons can assault the turn they DS in. Long range support is good too, like Preds, Defilers, even infiltrated Chosen. As for the points cost, I'd say yeah they are worth it. Best heavy infantry in the game, period. Just gotta use them right. Not only good at tankbusting, but think about 3 Plasma Cannons hitting a termie squad. Nothing but ashes left.