Firefight Heavy Army

[JoeGuardsman]

Has anyone done an army that focussed on shooting. I'm curious to see how it has worked for other people. I'm starting an Ork army out in Japan because no one plays them and I've always loved shoota boys. Before you chide on me I want you to know that the Japanese only have basic rules for Orks and Choppas do not lower armor saves. I'm doing a Blood Axe Horde and I'm looking to use alot of sneaky tricks and other tactics to win, not just load up on slugga boys and run at 'em.

[Inquisitor Rosenadel]

Well, I'm sorry I have no advice, but I think this is definitely a very cool idea! Shootah Boyz, Flash Gitz, Wartrakks, etc. are the best bet, I think. Perhaps the heavy weapon platforms gretchin control, too.

[MSguardsmen]

shooty armies are good against slow armies. against nids, and speed freaks and other quick armies you will get killed in a few turns. also with deep strikers it just means your more likely to have an entire flank just die in a few turns. also never try to out shoot guard or tau you just wont win.

[Ikarus]

Well if is with my fullest advice that if you are looking for a firefight shooting army, Orks will definetly not be that choice. They aren't really the best shooty out there when you just come down to it. Get up and close range? We are talking about CSM, SM, SOb (especially) and some other raises who just pump the shells right into the face of their opponent.

[JoeGuardsman]

It is actually possible for me to out shoot Tau and Guard. Big shootas have a 36" range w/ assault 3 and I can have a whole lot of them also I do have the ability to fight in hand to had still, cause I'm still an Ork. The focus on shooting is just to have fun before I run into the think of it and bash people in the face with the big guns that I was carrying around. Your guys advice is right it isn't gonna be easy but I've never played an easy army (with the exception of my Ogre Kingdoms...maybe they are a little too good.) Gotta make this game challenging and fun or else you end up being that 40 year old guy preaching statistics and rules lawyering to doe eyed 12 year olds.

[Pabst]

A shooty Ork army eh? sounds like fun good luck with that. Nice to see something besides speed freaks

[Gnr. Keil]

Bolt on Big Shoota's. Max out each vehichle you take with them. Also Kanz, plenty of dakka on them with saw blades.

[JoeGuardsman]

Yeah I want to do bolt on big shootas but im in Japan and the Orks over here haven't invented them yet. In Japan they have a basic rules army list cause they never translated the full book and now they are waiting for the new codex. Otherwise I'd have bolt ons every where. Also choppas don't take away armor saves, there are no looted vehicles, tank busta boys dont have the tank hunter skill, no combi shootas or custom shootas and a ton of other restrictions. I'm gonna have to with sniikiness.

[Inquisitor Rosenadel]

Originally Posted by JoeGuardsman

Yeah I want to do bolt on big shootas but im in Japan and the Orks over here haven't invented them yet. In Japan they have a basic rules army list cause they never translated the full book and now they are waiting for the new codex. Otherwise I'd have bolt ons every where. Also choppas don't take away armor saves, there are no looted vehicles, tank busta boys dont have the tank hunter skill, no combi shootas or custom shootas and a ton of other restrictions. I'm gonna have to with sniikiness.

Wow, they need an update even more than we do! I guess shootah boyz are your best bet... load up on them!

[The Horror in the Shadows]

Those poor Japanese, not having the even the ork codex

[JoeGuardsman]

So, here is an update on the shooty Orks. After a shaky start with all of this metric system buisiness and table lengths my boyz have settled in. Racking up wins in every store in Japan...OK there is only 3 of them but still. In my first 1,000 points I'm sporting 8 big shootas with another 5 twin linked on bikes. I've been able to pour enough shells into a marines that they are too few to handle my big mean boss, and killa kan. I've gotta try my hand at a real solid player still but the sheer amount of shots seem to bypass even my bad luck. It's alot of fun throwing down 15 twin linked shots then 15 regular shots then 9, not to mention the rest of the boyz.

[Dan296]

nice. thats a ton of high power shots for a 1k army.

[JoeGuardsman]

Ah there is nothing more enjoyable than rolling 39 shots every shooting phase. I've only really played Marines with this army (they put too much faith in their power armor) but there just isn't enough left to deal with all of the orks once I get across the board. It's not the best recon army but it gets the job done. I wonder if I should still try to sell it when I leave.

[calvor]

If you want a bit more firepower try going for a squad of lootas, which can help with any armored threats that might come along, also big gunz help out a bit too.

[Imperial Commander Gent]

I have found Lobbas from the big gunz to be a good choice in shooty ork armies. S5 AP5 and no roll to hit is awesome when you think about it. Even better is they only cost 90 points for 3 of them! I really think that is a way to go if you want shooty orks!

[BrainDeleted]

Battlewagon!!!! If you want to go through the trouble of making one they are great! At least I think so...be a nice expansion on this army...mobile big gun transporting 20 boyz

[Imperial Commander Gent]

I have a friend who runs his battleagon with 20 'ard boyz in it! the 'ard boyz have 4 big shootas and then maxed out bolt ons and the main gunz and you have one hell of a shooter!

[JoeGuardsman]

yeah that sounds like fun. I'd be all over the battle wagon, bolt on shootas, and lootas if only I could take them out here in J-pan. They only have a basic army list. My cannons would be lobbas if the basic list didnt have S10 AP 1 cannons.

[JoeGuardsman]

So I'm back from Japan and just used my Orks for the first time using the regular rules against regular players at my GW store. I went 2-0 even though my tactics had to change a little and the second guy made a list specifically to combat me. 39 bigshoota shots are hard to argue with and if I get psycho-blastas off it's 54 shots. So they are fully painted and they are good and will only get better in the new rules where the shoota boyz get assault weapons it's time to put them up on ebay. I might have kept them if I wasn't completely strapped for cash.

[kenshin620]

if yer rich, get forge world stuff loke battle fortresses or gunwagons