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Old 01-22-2008   #31 (permalink)
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Default Re: Hitler Lives within the Space Marines!

My goodness, calm down! Ikky posted it as a fething joke.
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My goodness, calm down! Ikky posted it as a fething joke.
Good point. Just sticks in my craw someone would be so idiotic. Beat the kid! Come on Word Bearers, tag me in! Manly Man Slam!
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Default Re: Hitler Lives within the Space Marines!

isn't it hypocritical to disapprove of violence but support such violent fascist groups like the nazi's?

and i also find it very hard to find a peaceful way to pay homage to the nazi's. along with the fact that his marines are not a historical homage. the clear aryan writing was all modern era nazi's and the blue armor is nothing like the uniforms of the 30's. frankly it's disgusting to see a hobby in a fiction fantasy world be slapped in with some neo-nazi's "homage". i think it's distasteful and very unwanted.
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Sorry whoever deleted Word Bearer's post, but I think he has a very important point there.
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Default Re: Hitler Lives within the Space Marines!

Actually it was pretty lame

I was expecting a real nazi theme.

Where`s the gray??!


Those just look like some kid got tired of his ultrasmurfs and decided to make them "cool"
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Default Re: Hitler Lives within the Space Marines!

We all know the dif between the marine pics and the SL pics.Personaly i have always thought the german army and all its factions had a cool look to them,doesnt mean i have a swastika hanging in my room.
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We all know the dif between the marine pics and the SL pics.Personaly i have always thought the german army and all its factions had a cool look to them,doesnt mean i have a swastika hanging in my room.
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I agree totally.

I admit those space marines were a bit distasteful...and I can understand how that could upset someone.

The second steel legion army on the other hand, just looked awsome. He even cleverly changed the symbol on the arm bands too keep the same theme without being offensive.

I think some of us are over reacting just a lil bit. If we are gonna act all butt hurt over such a lil thing like Nazi Themed armies I dont think we should be playing any kinda war game. Especially one such as 40K, that has so many WW1 / WW2 influences in model design.

Things could be worse afterall.. They coulda been EMO themed armies

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Default Re: Hitler Lives within the Space Marines!

ouch man those guys look wrong but no need to flame the guy for being a retard just forget he exists.
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Default Re: Hitler Lives within the Space Marines!

It isnt the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. Should he of painted it, and then post them for sale, probably not. It isnt anything to go nuts over, I just find it funny how that person took all that time to paint, and money to make Space Marine models into Nazi's.

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There is a difference between German and Nazi... Those guys are painted by a Nazi, other influences come from Germany. I see no problem painting models as German Soldiers but its when you bring ideology into it that there becomes a problem and a banner that has "Aryan" on it has definitly crossed that line. Ideology makes nazi what it is without it you have German Militarism not much different from WW1.

My Death Korps if you know anything about history have a very strong Germanic flavor to them but I'm not ideologically motivated or painting offensive matter on my troops. I'm just modelling in the theme of some of the best military units the world has seen so far.

I find anything to do with Nazism very distastefull b/c people dont know that difference between the two and it re-inforces very false stereotypes.

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Default Re: Hitler Lives within the Space Marines!

i find it funny it could be ment as a joke maybe not, but in not very PC and have a very open mind about things, granted it should be lfet for that era in time but still, its kinda funny.
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Default Re: Hitler Lives within the Space Marines!

It would be funnier without the swastika I think, because fluffwise Marines are essentially the Aryans of the 41st Millenium.

I still think the guy doing the salute looks like he's describing how tall someone is...
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I still think the guy doing the salute looks like he's describing how tall someone is...
lol yeah i found that a good laugh
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I think it would be more interesting to see an SM doing the Cossack dance, honestly...
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there are alot of thing that i dont like about my country but i dont hate being from here
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I find it offensive...now we must purge this moron from the rest of humanity...besides...he doesn't even have the paint job right
LMAO MORON!!!!!
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QFT Warmaster Romulas.No one holds you down and keeps you in the States.If you hate The United States that means their must be some other wonderful place that you can go to thats 100% better.
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QFT Warmaster Romulas.No one holds you down and keeps you in the States.If you hate The United States that means their must be some other wonderful place that you can go to thats 100% better.
pure genius

i dont hate the states i love it here
try reading what people write
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gentlemen, this is getting a little personal in some instances. please keep it civil.
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pure genius

i dont hate the states i love it here
try reading what people write
I was on your side. QFT means I agree. the other stuff I wrote wasn't aimed at you.
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Astro, you've gotten an infraction. No need to jump liek you did.

Rom and Cir.. You guys have managed to keep most the debate civil, lets keep it that way please.
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There is a difference between German and Nazi... Those guys are painted by a Nazi, other influences come from Germany. I see no problem painting models as German Soldiers but its when you bring ideology into it that there becomes a problem and a banner that has "Aryan" on it has definitly crossed that line. Ideology makes nazi what it is without it you have German Militarism not much different from WW1.

My Death Korps if you know anything about history have a very strong Germanic flavor to them but I'm not ideologically motivated or painting offensive matter on my troops. I'm just modelling in the theme of some of the best military units the world has seen so far.

I find anything to do with Nazism very distastefull b/c people dont know that difference between the two and it re-inforces very false stereotypes.

Theres my rant,
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Thank you, Baron. I agree completely. I will also bow out of this discussion, I'm usually easygoing, but this is one subject where I can get angry very quickly.
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i'm closing this thread for the time being, pending mod discussion, to avoid a possible flaming extravaganza. there is a chance of it being reopened, we'll keep you posted
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