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Old 10-17-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default can I use a karskin squad with sm?

if I make them into Inquisitorial Stormtroopers?
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if I make them into Inquisitorial Stormtroopers?
You mean ally your SM with Inquisition and use Karskin to represent the Storm TrooperS? Answer = YES.
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karkrin is just a fancy name for the storm trooper models.
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righto. ummm depending on who you're playing, maybe you can get a cheapo IG army and use 2 FOC's ? under the real right rules of course :]
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No Rawr, heh if he just says he has 'DH or WH' Allies, he can just take a unit of Storm Troopers without restriction, to my belief.


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sweet. I always wanted to have IG in my sm army
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yes you can take them as allies but you will need an inquisitor i believe and there are restrictions to the IST's in the DH and WH codex

cheap effective models

IMO use dual plasma and mount them in a chimera
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No Rawr, heh if he just says he has 'DH or WH' Allies, he can just take a unit of Storm Troopers without restriction, to my belief.


Answer - Yes.
right, i meant it as another option..though a lot less points efficient XD
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wait, I thought I cant use chimeras in a sm army
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read up on the while allies thing
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wait, I thought I cant use chimeras in a sm army
You can use a chimera in an army with SM, as long as you have an allied force included that can access them (inquisition) and you don't mount SM in them.
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IMO, you really have to weigh the Pros and Cons of taking a Kasrkin squad instead of a Tactical/Veteran/whatever squad.
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IMO, you really have to weigh the Pros and Cons of taking a Kasrkin squad instead of a Tactical/Veteran/whatever squad.
Cheap anf yet effective meat shield to hold a unit in place!
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i am sure that you are already aware of this but just to point out that =][= storm troopers can neither infiltrate nor deep strike like their IG counterparts.

if you are Chimera mounting them anyway, then it doesn't matter, but if you wanted them to deepstrike/infiltrate, there isn't any point using the =][= versions.
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What is this chimera nonsesnse... considering the role of a IG stormtrooper squad in a Space marine army... the rhino is much better!

A rhino gets a unit into place, then serves a mobile cover.

A chimera is a mobile firebase.

IG stormtroopers don't need to be that mobile... once in place, they form a nice fire base (2 plasma ftw!) and then get murdered by AP4 weaponry. Just like scouts, minus the plasma... oh, and they are cheaper.
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ok think again a chimera inst too expensive and let you fire lots of shots on the move and unload 2x plasma its a very nice addition. i use to play DH and use 3-4 of these squads very nice fire base and objective holder
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ok think again a chimera inst too expensive and let you fire lots of shots on the move and unload 2x plasma its a very nice addition. i use to play DH and use 3-4 of these squads very nice fire base and objective holder
in a daemonhunter army, the chimera gave you access to lots of heavy anti-infantry guns. (though still only at BS3, but hey!)

a space marine army doesn't need the extra heavy bolters... those 80'ish pts are much better spent on other upgrades such as a land speeder tornado or outfitting a few devastators.
what the inquisition storm troopers do for a space marine force is give them 10 more bodies for dirt cheap! 100pts + weapongrades is a true bargin for the marines who's cheapest troop - the scout - is still more expensive than the storm trooper!
if the troopers want mobility, then a rhino is better as it is cheaper, which is the whole point of the unit; cheap reinforcements who are also easily sacrifical!

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i still think the firebase a chimera can bring is alot nicer then a death coffin bringing them down the field
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