Necrons and Tyranids hate eachother because....

[Stubber]

Originally Posted by masterofweirdness

While the Tyranids don't have souls! In fact, the only reason they have a persence in the Warp is because the Hive Mind is so danged powerful!

The Nids actually have a near negative effect in the warp. It appears as a huge shadow in the warp, blocking off warp travel and rendering astropathic communications impossible...why else would Nids have a pyschic power that causes psykers to roll 3D6 for psychic tests?

Originally Posted by Azalar

But the Star Gods COULD [Just an Idea] Have created the 'Nids, I mean, They have been around for a long time.

The Necrontyr actually found the C'tan in a semi-sentient state feeding off a local star. The Necrontyr struck a deal with the C'tan to gain immortality and hence the Necrontyr became Necrons.

[Leman Russ]

I hate both of them, but the 'Crons would OWN the 'Nids. people say that the fleets in the milky way are only a small part of the nids total fleets, which is true, but ive also heard it quoted that less than 5% percent of the total necron population has awakened. On the necron body, unlike other enemies the damnable bugs fight there is nothing to injure. Necrons dont bleed to death, they have no organs to rupture and fail. in order to destroy a necron you have to completely ruin its body, which is a bit difficult to do while their destroying your molecules with their gauss weapons

[Inquisitor Ralei]

The only way the Hive Mind could truly defeat the Necrons is the same way the IoM could only do so...to destroy their Tomb Worlds to stop that particular Necron legion from being able to self repair and teleport when damaged.

[Pabst]

Originally Posted by Leman Russ

I hate both of them, but the 'Crons would OWN the 'Nids. people say that the fleets in the milky way are only a small part of the nids total fleets, which is true, but ive also heard it quoted that less than 5% percent of the total necron population has awakened. On the necron body, unlike other enemies the damnable bugs fight there is nothing to injure. Necrons dont bleed to death, they have no organs to rupture and fail. in order to destroy a necron you have to completely ruin its body, which is a bit difficult to do while their destroying your molecules with their gauss weapons

We can all take comfort in the fact that Orks would waste both races before they could have an epic showdown (I think that was another thread about Orks n Nids being the only 2 races left in the end)

[Dan296]

ha. right. keep telling yourself that =]

[Killermoose]

Well, he's got a point (against Necrons anyway) as you just can't kill Orks. But Tyranids would be able too, as even if the Orks let off spores, the Tyranids would just devour the planet and the sportes would be screwed. In my view the Necrons would win it, what with their ability to phase out, and be repaired. If just 3-5% of the Necron forces have woken up so far, thats gonna be a whole lot of unkillable death machines. The Tyranids won't stand a chance. The only races that really stand a chance against the Necrons are the Tau and the Eldar, as if they joined together (which isn't out of the question) a mix of Eldar knowledge and Tau can-do would make something that could destroy the Necrons. The IoM helping them would definitley make it easier though.

[Cagarner]

Im sure if the eldar or tau made some kind of weapon that just totally vaporises a necron. So when the necron becomes a thin mist, I would like to see them phase out of that!! Orks can also be totally killed if a nice cleansing sweep of the flamer is applied.

[Inquisitor Ralei]

Can someone give me a reference to the piece of fluff that specifically states that only 3-5% of the Necron race has woken up.

But Tyranids would be able too, as even if the Orks let off spores, the Tyranids would just devour the planet and the sportes would be screwed.

I've said before that increased exposure to combat as well as the huge population density (of the Tyranids) not only means Orks shed more spores but that those spores mature much more quickly and into bigger Orkoid specimens (no Grots or Squigs). The shed spores would simply settle in Ork controlled regions since the Tyranid method of changing the Planet would mean the spore would have difficulty growing and as you said, they would just be consumed straight away.

[Killermoose]

Ah, ok, that makes sense. I supose that if they did mature quicker, and bypassed the grot and squig stage, they would be able to contest the 'nids for the planet much faster, and therefore stop them from devouring the planet.

[Inquisitor Ralei]

I remember a thread a while ago about which race out of the Tyranids and Orks that are fighting due to Kryptman's gamble would ultimately triumph.
My answer is Orks all the way...as long as there are Orks left to shed more spores (which there always are) then the Tyranids will be expending energy for little biomass in return.
They can only consume the Planet fully when every Ork is dead so IMO the Hive Mind should simply swamp the Planet of Tyranid organisms and try to wipe out all the Orks as quickly and efficiently as possible rather than having a sustained fight with them in which the Orks can recouperate their losses quicker than the Tyranids can.

[Killermoose]

It's like a never ending battle- Tyranids are constantly being created in orbit and Orks are growing on the planet below.

I think that the 'nids would win eventually, as they would come up with some creature/tatic that would stop the Orks spawning. Thats if theres enough 'nids out there beyond the galaxy.

[Inquisitor Ralei]

Hopefully, the new Ork Codex will have a section on Ork Empires and explain what is going on more fully.

[rintinglen]

Necron: "hey, you got slime in my motor oil"
Tyranid: "You got motor oil in my slime."
The fight breaks out.

[Stubber]

Originally Posted by rintinglen

Necron: "hey, you got slime in my motor oil"
Tyranid: "You got motor oil in my slime."
The fight breaks out.

Hence the Apocalyptic war breaks out that sees both races and all others in the galaxy exterminated allowing daemons to escape the warp and settle in the material universe...but without any sentient life forms how would the daemons get their power?

[rintinglen]

Energizer {marcus registratus} batteries...they keep going and going and going.

[Stubber]

I forgot about those

[Gnr. Keil]

We(the local group of players) have talked about this. We agree that the Necrons and Tyranids are just complete opposits, and that neither knows the other exists until they are on top of one another.
We beilive that the Necrons see us(Psychic sensitive races)much the same way demons do, as small beacons of light(soul stuff). The Tyranids ability to effectivly shut down the warp in there emmediate area probally has the same, or similare effect on the Necrons ability to sense soul stuff.
Since the Tyranids only search for planets ripe with resources(although they will consume any world with biomass on it)they have no ability to consume the living metal(or any rough ore for that matter)that all Necron Tombs are constructed of. They would just ingore it thinking it's dense rock or something similar.
These are the collective thoughts of about 30 individuals.

[Inquisitor Ralei]

We beilive that the Necrons see us(Psychic sensitive races)much the same way demons do, as small beacons of light(soul stuff)

Necrons have no affinity to the Warp whatsoever so it's doubtful they perceive us the same way as daemons do.
They're highly advanced machine constructs so probably see in all parts of the EM spectrum. The Necrons as a race use their superior technology (like the Tau) to solve their deficiencies in any particular area.

Since the Tyranids only search for planets ripe with resources(although they will consume any world with biomass on it)they have no ability to consume the living metal(or any rough ore for that matter)

As I said, the Tyranids consume anything that can provide them with biomass. A bit of ore isn't going to stop them and I have no idea why you think they don't have the ability to consume Living Metal.
It's not that they can't consume it, they simply don't have the chance since the Necron or Necron artefact would phase out to another location (unless the Tyranids are attacking their Tomb World which would spell utter disaster for the Tyranids).

[Killermoose]

Yeh, as the 'nids would lose massive amounts of resources attacking it, only to get a meagre amount back. So Tyranids taking out Tomb Worlds is completely out of the question (unless they actually wanted to commit mass suicide!)

[Inquisitor Ralei]

The IoM can do what they did in the Necron Codex...send some Death Watch Marines and nuke the Tomb complex from the inside.
Sure, they lost a lot of Marines but wiped out that particular legion of Necrons which IMO is a bargain.
The Tyranids for all their intelligence wouldn't do this since they would be more concerned with the Planet then simply wiping out the Necron threat and then legging it!

[Killermoose]

They'd be best served to wipe out all other life that isn't Necron, then leave the galaxy!