2500 Points Catachans vs. CSM Khorn

[SteveBerenyi]

The jungle sweltered with heat as the fighters slowly worked their way through the tightly packed trees,

Who knows what fell beasts could be lying in wait to ambush us thought Straken.

Johnson did you hear that one of the Devils whispered. Straken heard it on the wind.
Then he heard the odd sound… A hydraulic release. “Friendly Presence?” he asked into his com unit. There came no response.

Deftly he ordered the attack and sent his men to what would either be their demise or their day of Glory.
…………………………………………………………………
“The weak flesh of the False Emperor abounds around us men” Hanagor stated mater of factly. “The Blood Will Run Deep Today”.

“You, you call yourselves chosen? Prove it. Scout ahead… heh heh heh”

“BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!!!”


Mission:
Recon (get scoring units into the enemy deployment zone)
Deployment zones extend 18” from each long table edge and each player can set up units anywhere within their zones.

Special Rules:
Deep Strike, Infiltrate, Victory Points, Random Game Length

Game Length:
Voting ends Thursday November 1st 2007

Battlefield Details:
8’ x 8’ Heavily Forested with no opening between trees more than 5”
Large 13” round hill approx 10” tall in the center of the table.


Last of the Bloodthirsty’s Catachan Jungle Fighters

HQ

HQ squad -214
Iron fist Stracken
4 death world vets
4 melta guns

ELITES

3x Assault teams- 330
vet Sargent
6 vets
3 demo charges


TROOPS

5x Catachan devils squad- 1280
Catachan Devil officer- bolt pistol and power weapon
vet Sargent w/ bolt pistol and power weapon
6 catachan devils w/ shot guns
3 flamers

Infantry platoon
Captain w/ bolt gun - 36

squad 1- 124
vet sargent w/ bolt gun
6 men w/ las guns
1 w/ plasma gun
2 w/ missel launcher

squad 2- 106
vet sargent w/ bolt gun
4 men w/ las guns
1 w/ plasma gun
2 w/ missel launcher

Fire Support squad-139
6 men
3x Auto cannon

FAST ATTACK

2x scout squads -176
vet Sargent
5 vets
1melta

Sentinel squadron-100
2x sentinels

TOTAL 2494

Using my rules to my advantage ill have my reg squads move up and infiltrate in some trees same with my patrols then the rest of my force will come up through the trees using cover to my advantage, then when close enogh open fire, charging in my assault squads hitting with demo charges and my catachan devils open up like crazy with flamers and shot guns, then charging in. my reg squads are on tank killing duty, and my fire support squad kills the marines in hails of auto cannon fire. His force probably has the armor on me and his marines are better but im going to use my forces abilities to their advantage

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Hanagor's Warband of Khorne (of Baron Spiky)

HQ

Hanagor the Reaper
Chaos Lord:
Mark of Khorne, Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Dh'Ruuth (Daemon Weapon of Khorne), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
=140pts

ELITES

Despair Bringers
10 Chosen Chaos Space Marines:
Icon of Khorne, Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Chain Axes (CCW), Bolters, 4 Flamers, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Infiltrate
=230pts

Children of the Blood God
10 Chosen Chaos Space Marines:
Icon of Khorne, Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Chain Axes (CCW), Bolters, 4 Flamers, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Infiltrate
=230pts

The Skull Throne's Angels
10 Chosen Chaos Space Marines:
Icon of Khorne, Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Chain Axes (CCW), Bolters, 5 Flamers, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Infiltrate
=235pts

TROOPS

Crimson Death
12 Khorne Berzerkers:
Mark of Khorne, Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Chain Axes (CCW), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Fearless, Furious Charge
=252pts

Khorne's Fury
12 Khorne Berzerkers:
Mark of Khorne, Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Chain Axes (CCW), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Fearless, Furious Charge
=252pts

Flesh Renders
12 Khorne Berzerkers:
Mark of Khorne, Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Chain Axes (CCW), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Fearless, Furious Charge
=252pts

Companions of The Reaper
11 Khorne Berzerkers:
Mark of Khorne, Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Chain Axes (CCW), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Fearless, Furious Charge
=231pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

Disciples of Battle
12 Chaos Havocs:
Icon of Khorne, Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolters, 4 Flamers, Chain Axes (CCW), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
=230pts

Vengeance
12 Chaos Havocs:
Icon of Khorne, Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolters, 4 Flamers, Chain Axes (CCW), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
=230pts

Maimers
12 Chaos Havocs:
Icon of Khorne, Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolters, 4 Flamers, Chain Axes (CCW), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
=230pts

=2497pts

Hanagor accompanies the Companions of the Reaper squad, other than that its a fairly simple plan. If I cant burn the Catachans out of existence then a few Chain Axes+Imperial Heads should help considerably after all....
Kill! Maim! Burn! Kill! Maim! Burn!Kill! Maim! Burn!




PLEASE CHANGE THE COLOR OF YOUR VOTE TO MAKE IT CLEAR.


GOOD LUCK TO BOTH!

[Baron Spikey]

wow, those IG autocannons and missile launchers really aren't going to stop me...even though your using catachans it still means you can only see 12" into the jungle (more than my 6" admittedly). By the time you have a chance to fire them you'll only get at most a turns worth of shooting out of them. simply put:
Blood for the Blood God, Skulls for the Skull Throne!!

Courtesy of Hairyyahoo here is the Catachan Codex

[Wakim]

The screaming skulls in my head tell me to vote with the khornates...

I must ponder.

[GhostofTerra]

that forest will burn with catachan blood

all the flamers are tooo trogdor to lose



BARON SPIKEY

[SteveBerenyi]

again please put your vote for aPerson in a different colour



thanks

[Krom_stormbrow]

I'm afraid my votes go to....





Baron Spikey (red... he's khorne)

And here's why. At most steve can see 12" Baron 6" . Steve has 1 turn to make it all count. 1 turn... I'm sorry, however many flashlights you carry into the woods tonight, the blod god will prevail.

After steve's maelstorm of las fire, and autocannons, rockets and melta, Baron will advance 6"... see you and let rip with flamers galore. Either dead at that point or baron advances into combat... (I'm hoping sensible enough not to wipe everyone out in the first round of combat).

After this point steve may get some more chances of firing... bt it will be diminished enough to make little difference at this point.


Sorry steve... would prefer imperial to win, but I think you don't have time to make all the weapons count before he's on you.

[last of the bloodthirsty]

actually this catachan list is mine.

and yeah what you said before about power gaming? yeah most would agree, ehh but people say mine is worse.

those flamers are gonna do crazy shyte to me, and the rockets and missel launchers wouldn't do much.

now i think the best point to attack would have to be a flank with everything. even to make a dent, though i know marines can take flamers, 3 is alot to deal with at once (4 is worse though)

yet if i hit you first with the meat mallets (assault squads with 3 demo packs per squad) i think i could do some damage to your khornies and even your chosen

[Baron Spikey]

People you have to read the Catachan Codex (I cant believe im about to do this)....

My troops will be operating as if they were constantly in Difficult Terrain, whereas the Catachans (except their Sentinels) can move freely through the woods/jungles. Just something I thought you might want to keep in mind.

I think this is the first battle where im arguing in my opponents favour...i want to win this honestly (if i do win) so i cant have you lot simply looking at the lists without realising the Rambo-looka likes have some special rules regarding wooded terrain.

[Krom_stormbrow]

I can always change my vote baron....

[God_Grinder]

i havent read the chan rules but if i remember they can move freely but they still only seethe 12" so i still dont think ther going to be able to utilize ther big guns the way they would need to. i feel the board is the ideal board bord for the khornates and would have a hard time losing to any list ther imo. so my vote goes to Baron.

[Wakim]

I vote RAMBO

Seriously, it`s an 8'*8' table they`ve got all the advantages even though their not marines I think (hope) the marines will be well trimed by the time they get close enought to hurt anything

[hairyyahoo]

i used to play catachans back when the list was frist released and i can confidently say that properly used in the right terrain they is damn near unbeatable.

the thing you have to pay particular attention to is the "ambush" rule. it's like deepstrike in a way but a lot more reliable. a potential game winner when coupled with the catachans abilities in jungle terrain and the "spooked" rule.

if he's smart about it, lotbt will have his platoon squads cover any trails/clearings with their heavy weapons whilst the more specialised catachan units set ambushes and other fun stuff in the jungle. that way the heavy guns either lay the smack down on the enemy or force them into the trees, neither of which is a particulaly good move.

all in all my vote goes to Last of the Bloodthirsty and the mean green jungle fightin machine

[last of the bloodthirsty]

i thank you guys, and you too baron.

i have 7 units capable of ambushing, 5 of them the heavy hitter squads.

hairy yahoo has got it right. clearings covered with the biggies and everyone else is doing the fun stuff

[Baron Spikey]

my tactics start and finish with KILL! BURN! MAIM!

Seriously any unit that gets hit by one of my Marine squads (if its still got at least 7-8 members) isn't getting back up, flamers ignore the catachan's cover/armour saves so with 25 of them I'll be virtually setting fire to the forest and it's overly-muscled friends. Even if bloodthirsty does cover the trails doesnt mean i cant go round them with only about 129 men to my 114 (if i've read your list correctly LOTB) then I'd say it doesn't matter how many ambushes he springs, with those numbers its virtually 1-on-1 and my men can beat his in those circumstances.

[last of the bloodthirsty]

just kinda glad i didn't take snipers

[Baron Spikey]

Well its 3-2 to me so far...anyone who is having trouble voting (or hasn't seen this thread yet) have a look at the mission type again.

The Catachans have the advantage in manouverability but if they do decide to ambush to cut away at my army that will mean many of their units are static. Essentially its a trade-off of preventing my troops advancing into the IG deployment zone rather than his troops advancing into my own.

My counter-tactic? Being bloody stubborn! I'll just keep on advancing straight ahead killing anything that gets in my way.

I dont think that this Khornate army would be unbeatable in the terrain chosen, both Catachans and Kroot have major advantages for firing and movement, other armies like Eldar and Tau could move over the jungle so its a little unfair to say i doctored the battlefield type to give the advantage to myself- as long as my opponent read the battlefield type (which LOTB obviously did) then i dont want any more accusations of creating a battle designed for me to win.

[Battle-Ranch]

Bloodthirsty’s Cause of his better movement and stunning good looks

[SteveBerenyi]

Bump, VOTE PEOPLE!

[Dan296]

heh

i wasnt on at all last week so i didnt see this

BARON SPIKEY FTW!!
catachans can still only see 12'', he will have at most 3 turns of solid shooting. then the flamers and CC power will unleash hell. remember, spikey has 9 squads of khornites. the havoks and chosen still have marks of khorne and are still deadly.

[SteveBerenyi]

Bumpity for those of you who lost it in the forum down time,

VOTE NOW!!!!!!

[SteveBerenyi]

Ok it has ended.

and the winner is.... BARON SPIKY'S KHORNATE HORDE

with a grand total of 4 to 3

Congatulations!!!!!!!

[hairyyahoo]

close...very close. we never did come up with ways to up the profile of the battlefield did we?

[Chaos Lord Horus]

sounds good, u make it yourself?
ive had too much

[Baron Spikey]

woo a 2nd match in the bag. which army shall i attempt to win with now? (well if that match with Steve vs. [cant remember] goes ahead that'll be IG sorted) ho hum i shall ponder.....

Good list last of the bloodthirsty I thought you were gonna win it in the end but sadly interest in the Battlefield seems to have bled away as Hairy noted robbing you of a potential victory.

[SteveBerenyi]

no hairy, but for my future battle's i'll be making a JPG of the battlefield.

Make it easier to "see" the battle imo.