First 2v2 Battle!

[Dan296]

Imperial Commisar Gent & Templar Mikeel
VS.
SteveBerenyi & Braindeleted

Objective: KILL!! victory points.

"Dracon, the greenskin pawns have moved exactly as we planned. the pathetic mon-keih wont know what hit them."
"Excellant. ready the webway portals, as soon as the greenskins are engaged, we move out."

The imperial column drove on unawares. The Feral orks, however, couldnt hold themselves any longer. with a great howl, they lept up and sprinted toward the imperial tanks. the first wave was immediatly killed by hurricane bolters and the holy promethium of the immolators. beyond the dead, the roar of something gargantuan could be heard...crashing through the trees...

Order of the Gray Rose: Imperial Commisar Gent

Cannoness, Blessed Weapon, bolt pistol, Mantle of Ophelia, Cloak of St. Aspira, rosarius, Litanies of Faith, 150 points
5 Celestians, Veteran sister superior with a power weapon and plasma pistol, Heavy Flamer, 112 points
Immolator, twin heavy flamers, 65 points

9 Battle sisters, Heavy Flamer, Flamer, Imagifier, 167 points
Veteran Superior, Power Weapon, Plasma Pistol
--Rhino, Smoke Launchers, Extra Armor, Storm Bolter, 58 Points

9 Battle sisters, Heavy Flamer, Flamer, Imagifier, 167 points
Veteran Superior, Power Weapon, Plasma Pistol
--Rhino, Smoke Launchers, Extra Armor, Storm Bolter, 58 Points

9 Battle sisters, Heavy Flamer, Flamer, Imagifier, 167 points
Veteran Superior, Power Weapon, Plasma Pistol
--Rhino, Smoke Launchers, Extra Armor, Storm Bolter, 58 Points

9 Battle sisters, Heavy Flamer, Flamer, Imagifier, 167 points
Veteran Superior, Power Weapon, Plasma Pistol
--Rhino, Smoke Launchers, Extra Armor, Storm Bolter, 58 Points

9 Battle sisters, Heavy Flamer, Flamer, Imagifier, 167 points
Veteran Superior, Power Weapon, Plasma Pistol
--Rhino, Smoke Launchers, Extra Armor, Storm Bolter, 58 Points

4 Seraphim, 2 Hand Flamers, Frag and Krak Grenades, 159 Points
Veteran Superior, Power Weapon, Plasma Pistol

4 Retributors, 4 Heavy Bolters, 129 points
Veteran Superior, Bolter
--Immolator, Twin Heavy Flamers, 65 points
4 Retributors, 4 Heavy Bolters, 129 points
Veteran Superior, Bolter
--Immolator, Twin Heavy Flamers, 65 points

Black Templars:Mikeel
Templar Mikeels Black Templars
HQ
Marshal-135
Terminator Armor
Pair of lighting claws

Master of Sanctity-167
Artificer Armor
Bolt Pistol
Frag Grenades
Holy Orb of Antioch
Jump Pack
Melta Bombs

Emperors Champion-140
Vow: Accept Any Challenge, No Matter the Odds.

ELITES
Sword Brethren Squad-201
5 Sword Brethren
Bolt Pistols and Close Combat Weapons
(5) Terminator Honors
(5) Frag Grenades
Pair of Lightning Claws
Power Weapon
(5) Crusader Seals
Special Rule: Furious Charge

Transport: Razorback-113
Twin-Linked Lascannon
Dozer Blade
Extra Armor
Storm Bolter
Smoke Launchers

Dreadnought-139
Heavy Flamer
Venerable
Smoke Launchers
Special Rule: Furious Charge

TROOPS
Crusader Squad-215
10 Initiates
Bolt Pistols and Close Combat Weapons
Meltagun
Power Weapon
(10) Frag Grenades
(10) Crusader Seals

Transport: Land Raider Crusader-303
Storm Bolter
Smoke Launchers
Blessed Hull

Crusader Squad-211
10 Initiates
Bolt Pistols and Close Combat Weapons
Power Fist
Flamer
(10) Frag Grenades
(10) Crusader Seals

FAST ATTACK
Assault Squad-251
10 Initiates
Plasma Pistol
Flamer
Power Weapon
(10) Melta Bombs

HEAVY SUPPORT
Vindicator-125

Tactic is the same with the LRC in the front, Flanked by the cannonesses immolator and one of the immolators, and then the rest of the column filling out behind them. Nobody deploys inside their transports besides the large squad of marines with their marshall in their LRC. All of the sisters form up behind the armored column with tanks flanking them on all sides and march. The retributors will set up in the back and lay down suppressive fire.
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Steve's Dark Eldar
HQ
Dracon 105
Agoniser, Splinter Pistol, Webway Portal, Terrorfex
Retinue
9x Warriors 157
Raider
256

Haemonoculi
2x 70
Scissor hand, Stinger

Elites
1 Sucubus
9 Wyches
Raider, 2 blasters, shardnet/impaler, hydraknives, razorsnare/falchion, Sucubus:hydraknives, webway portal
223

7 Grotesques 105

7 Grotesques 105

TROOPS
Raider Squad
Syrabite
Blaster, Dark Lance, Webway Portal 206

Warrior Squad
Syrabite
19 warriors
Shredder, Splinter Cannon 186

Warrior Squad
19 warriors
Syrabite
Shredder, Splinter Cannon 186

Warrior Squad
19 warriors
Syrabite
Shredder, Splinter Cannon 186

Warrior Squad
19 warriors
Syrabite
Blaster, dark lance 181

Warrior Squad
19 warriors
Syrabite
Blaster, dark lance 181

Heavy Support
Ravager
2 Disintigrators
1 Dark Lance 115

Total 2000

Braindeleted's Feral Orks
HQ:
Warboss=131 points
Power Klaw
Iron Gob
Super Cyboar
Shiny Bitz
Flash Furs
Frag Grenades

Boss's Guard=334 points
7 Nobz with a Choppa,Shiny Bitz,Flash Furs,and a Cyboar
Pigdok with a Burna,2 Grot Styboyz,and a Cyboar

Wyrdboy=61 points
Shiny Bitz
'Eavy Armor
2 Minderz

Elites:
Brutes=217 points
20 brutes
2 Burnaz
Nob with 'Uge Choppa,Attack Sqig, and a Slugga

Brutes=212 points
20 brutes
2 Burnaz
Nob with 'Uge Choppa and a Slugga

Troops:
Grotz=112 points
30 grotz
Slaver with 'Eavy Armor and a Squighound

Huntas=249 points
25 Huntas
2 Big Shootas

Madboyz=177 points
20 Madboyz with Sluggas and Choppas
Pigdok with a Big Shoota and 3 Grot Styboyz

Madboyz=177 points
20 Madboyz with Sluggas and Choppas
Pigdok with a Big Shoota and 3 Grot Styboyz

Heavy Support:
Massive Squiggoth=230 points
2 Kannons
Twin-linked Big Shoota
12 Orks

Small Squiggoth=100 points
Kannon
6 Orks

147 models

Total=2000 points

JIK u dont know, the feral ork army list can be found here

[Templar Mikeel]

Although outnumbered, our column of tanks and superior 3/2+ armor saves will triumph, crushing the enemies of the Emperor beneath our tracks. By the way, what kind of terrain are we in?

[Dan296]

aak forgot to post that

flat, with a large hill were the eldar are, the imperial forces are in open ground, and then the center is filled with forests, only three openings in the center, left, and right.

its like the imperial forces were in marching order when the orks and dark eldar had a failed ambush and now its just a pitched battle

[Imperial Commander Gent]

This is gonna be awesome!

[Imperial Commander Gent]

Alright fellow terrans! Lets get some votes up on this battle!

[BrainDeleted]

VOTE!!!



there is something you should know first we have the ultimate meat shields in the Dark Eldar Grotesques = They can not be wounded be any less then strength 6 so all those bolter shells and "holy cleansing" flame don't touch or kill anything, shielding my orkish hordes and stevie's warriors from aaallllll those bolt shells and the BT can not beat my orks in close combat

Madboys, 2 squads 20 orks, 2A +1 for 2 CCWs+ S5 , T4 = many dead marines

[calvor]

Well I'm going for Steve and Brain

Because there is more units and lot more mobile then the others

[Templar Mikeel]

Originally Posted by BrainDeleted

VOTE!!!



there is something you should know first we have the ultimate meat shields in the Dark Eldar Grotesques = They can not be wounded be any less then strength 6 so all those bolter shells and "holy cleansing" flame don't touch or kill anything, shielding my orkish hordes and stevie's warriors from aaallllll those bolt shells and the BT can not beat my orks in close combat

Yes, the Grotesques are a good meatshield. I would have to divert several of my units to kill or break them. But thats what the Vindie, powerfists, assault cannons and plasma weaponry is for. Once the Grotesques are dead or broken, we can chew through most everything else. The vow I took means that I hit everything in CC on a 3+. The Sword Brethren and Emperors Champion are a supreme anti-HQ unit. I've had some experience fighting DE with my Templars and know that DE warriors don't last long in combat with a BT CC squad.
Orks are a lot tougher in CC. They only allow a 4+ save.(Feral Orks have choppas right?) Thats where 'Gent comes in with his Nuns with Guns. Also, the Clense and Purge tactic should work well against large squads/mobs of Orks/Dark Eldar. If the Orks try to charge Gent, I'm shure his massed flamers can take care of them.
Both of our lists are also rather Power Weapon heavy.

[SteveBerenyi]

Originally Posted by Templar Mikeel

Yes, the Grotesques are a good meatshield. I would have to divert several of my units to kill or break them. But thats what the Vindie, powerfists, assault cannons and plasma weaponry is for. Once the Grotesques are dead or broken, we can chew through most everything else. The vow I took means that I hit everything in CC on a 3+. The Sword Brethren and Emperors Champion are a supreme anti-HQ unit. I've had some experience fighting DE with my Templars and know that DE warriors don't last long in combat with a BT CC squad.
Orks are a lot tougher in CC. They only allow a 4+ save.(Feral Orks have choppas right?) Thats where 'Gent comes in with his Nuns with Guns. Also, the Clense and Purge tactic should work well against large squads/mobs of Orks/Dark Eldar. If the Orks try to charge Gent, I'm shure his massed flamers can take care of them.
Both of our lists are also rather Power Weapon heavy.

Because both of the lists are PW heavy they are vulnerable point wise to a lot of the firepower of the DE. Dark Lances to penetrate, and the Disintigrators to kill see vulnerable.

[BrainDeleted]

Yes, we have 11 dark lances (Bright lances but evil!) and blasters (hand held dark lances: same power, less range) that make mince meat of armor and we have got 6 Disintigrators which are imperial plasma cannons that don't get hot and can fire 3 24" S4 AP3 shots instead of the plasma cannon if we have need

[Templar Mikeel]

Originally Posted by BrainDeleted

Yes, we have 11 dark lances (Bright lances but evil!) and blasters (hand held dark lances: same power, less range) that make mince meat of armor and we have got 6 Disintigrators which are imperial plasma cannons that don't get hot and can fire 3 24" S4 AP3 shots instead of the plasma cannon if we have need

'Gent! Where are you!

Dark Lances have the Lance special rule, right? The blessed Hull upgrade for the LRC negates the Lance rule.

Also, the more marines you kill, the closer they get to you. Once we're locked in CC, all the blasters won't do much good, but all of our power weapons will. I never did experience much DE shooting, so i don't know how effective it can be.(My assault squad burned half a squad and chopped up the other half of the 20 man warrior squad) Enlighten me please.

[BrainDeleted]

PW? WHY?!? Orks and DE only get +5 save max and that really doesn't matter much so thats pretty much a waste of points and I WANT you to come into CC with me I invite you to get locked in CC with 30 grotz!!! Lets see your uber HQ killers get bogged down for half the battle with my grotz


DE Shooting? Ok, here I go. Lets start with this squad:

Warrior Squad
19 warriors
Syrabite
Shredder, Splinter Cannon 186

Spinter Rifle = 24" Str 3 AP 5 Rapid fire with 18 rifles in this squad
Shredder = 12" Str 6 AP- Assault 1 Blast
Splinter Cannon = 24" Str 4 AP 5 Assault 4

The whole squad is fleet to avoid you and most of the weapons let them keep moving and stay firing at full strength.

Next: Haemonoculi

Stinger = 12" Str X AP 6 Assault 1
Always Wound on +2, If the hit model is killed it EXPLODES Center a blast marker over the hit model, the blast has a Str value of the dead model's toughness and an AP value of the dead model's armor save! e.i. A Space Marine is killed by a Stinger shot the resulting explosion is Str 4 AP 3! (Short range doesn't matter because they are in the front with the Groteques)

Next: Dracon

Terrorfex = 12" Str N/A AP N/A Assault 1, Blast
Role to hit as normal, if one or more models are hit the unit MUST take a Leadership test or become pinned. Apply a -1 Ld modifier if more then one model is hit and if the unit is 25% under starting Strength. (Fearless or not this forces a test)

You want me to do DE close combat next? (Wychs kill anything, they are combat freaks)

...sorry I'm a very helpful man...

[TheKiller333]

I refuse to vote on this.
My reasons? Because Brain is annoying me so much about this... -.-

[Templar Mikeel]

Originally Posted by TheKiller333

I refuse to vote on this.
My reasons? Because Brain is annoying me so much about this... -.-

At least your not voting for the wrong person...

Originally Posted by BrainDeleted

PW? WHY?!? Orks and DE only get +5 save max and that really doesn't matter much so thats pretty much a waste of points and I WANT you to come into CC with me I invite you to get locked in CC with 30 grotz!!! Lets see your uber HQ killers get bogged down for half the battle with my grotz


DE Shooting? Ok, here I go. Lets start with this squad:

Warrior Squad
19 warriors
Syrabite
Shredder, Splinter Cannon 186

Spinter Rifle = 24" Str 3 AP 5 Rapid fire with 18 rifles in this squad
Shredder = 12" Str 6 AP- Assault 1 Blast
Splinter Cannon = 24" Str 4 AP 5 Assault 4

The whole squad is fleet to avoid you and most of the weapons let them keep moving and stay firing at full strength.

Next: Haemonoculi

Stinger = 12" Str X AP 6 Assault 1
Always Wound on +2, If the hit model is killed it EXPLODES Center a blast marker over the hit model, the blast has a Str value of the dead model's toughness and an AP value of the dead model's armor save! e.i. A Space Marine is killed by a Stinger shot the resulting explosion is Str 4 AP 3! (Short range doesn't matter because they are in the front with the Groteques)

Next: Dracon

Terrorfex = 12" Str N/A AP N/A Assault 1, Blast
Role to hit as normal, if one or more models are hit the unit MUST take a Leadership test or become pinned. Apply a -1 Ld modifier if more then one model is hit and if the unit is 25% under starting Strength. (Fearless or not this forces a test)

You want me to do DE close combat next? (Wychs kill anything, they are combat freaks)

...sorry I'm a very helpful man...

Not that the Grots would last very long before the broke.

So, are you planning on sitting there with your Grotesques in front, and sit there with the rest of your armies, and shoot? Considering how many bolters we're packing, the ordanance, assault cannons and all the tanks?

[SteveBerenyi]

ummmm... no. all we have to do is keep moving towards you... you only have the closest troop or the closest vehicle to shoot. that would be .... THE GROTS... THE GROTESQUES... THE SKIMMERS (you can only Glance me...)

then we come out of the warp portals and shred you. and the wyches drop and slice you to pieces.

HAVE FUN

[Baron Spikey]

hmm despite my love of all those flamers Steve and Brain have convinced me that the speed and firepower of the DE coupled with the numbers and close combat brutality of the Feral Orks would just about tip a win to them.

BrainDeleted and SteveBerenyi to win

[Templar Mikeel]

No rebuttle(sp?) at the moment. 'Gent! Where are you?! I need your help.

EDIT: If I got really desperate to take out the Grotesques, I could sick my EC on them. 4 S6 power weapon attacks on the charge at I5, always hits on a 3+ and backed by a 2+ armor save and a 4+ invulnerable.

[Imperial Commander Gent]

I am sorry for my absence, I have had computer problems as of late so I have not been able to be around. Now, the Dark Eldar claim they have more mobility than us? My entire force is mounted! Also, we dont have just the closest unit to shoot at, we can shoot past the closest unit. I personally wouldnt even bother shooting grots or grotesques, shoot past them, I can deal with them when they get closer to me. Even with the cover from the front line units, I can still shoot past everything you have in front!

[Templar Mikeel]

Don't be shocked if we don't start crying because of your grotesques and, *gasp* Large squads of Grots!

[BrainDeleted]

Dark Eldar all have fast, skimmer transport, thus more mobile then you. They can also some through reserves but almost anywhere on the table.

You can't shoot past the grotesques with out a target priority test, making it harder to do so and either way the grots are behind the grotesques so there isn't mush to shoot at and you gotta deal with the grotesques sooner or later if you ignore them they will tear you sisters apart or they will bog down BT