Fulgrim - 40K Terra

Lord Commander Erus · 08-25-2007

I just finish it tonight, finally. I must say when I first picked it up, it was rather slow and dull to me. The pace seemed forced, etc.. But, a few chapters in and I was HOOKED. The more and more the Legion turned to Slaanesh, the more and more I was drawn in. The author has a SUPERB talent at describing opulence and such in great, vivid sentences that create almost crystal clear pictures in my head. If for naught but the imagery alone, I reccomend this.

Plus, I officially hate the Laer... May they burn in hell. Also, I won't spoiler anything... But given what Lucius and Edilon said about what Rylanor was doing on Isstavan III, what do you guys think happened to Tarvitz NOW?

Please, let me know what you think of this book. The description of what happened in La Fenice I thought was exceptionally awesome.

Dan296 · 09-09-2007

ok, so i just finished it....
for some reason the primarchs are perfect tragic heroes. Fulgrim especially reminded me of Macbeth, in that he truly thought he did the right thing and wanted to better himself but once he realized how far he had fallen he knew it was too late to go back.
the author is amazingly good at discribing the slide into decadance and what happens in La Fenice towards the end and the conflicting emotions of the primarchs. now, im repulsed by chaos and dissapointed with myself for following khorne...aak!! must....fight....BFTBG!!!

anyway....

now for Flight of the Eisenstien!
and as for Tarvitz
*warning, spoiler alert*

i think he lives the Isstvan III massacre, because he couldve followed the ancient into the catacombs beneath the planet. from there, they and any loyalist survivors couldve escaped once the traitors leave.

Templar Mikeel · 09-10-2007

I still have to read horus rising.

Which would you say is your favorite of the three you have read, Dan/Erus?

Lord Commander Erus · 09-10-2007

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Originally Posted by Templar Mikeel

I still have to read horus rising.

Which would you say is your favorite of the three you have read, Dan/Erus?

I have read all 5, and can not pick a favorite, through Flight would be least on the list, just didn't capture my attention much until very late.

Spartan2154 · 09-10-2007

on the contrary, i enjoyed flight the most actually, second favorite would have to be galaxy in flames. I have yet to get fulgrim but i want it so bad....

Spartan-11755 · 09-11-2007

my god Fulgrim was awsome As said before slow at first but then wam its a book you don't want to put down and what happened to Fulgrim was sad.... he was the epitome of macbeth imho

Lord Commander Erus · 09-11-2007

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Originally Posted by Spartan-11755

my god Fulgrim was awsome As said before slow at first but then wam its a book you don't want to put down and what happened to Fulgrim was sad.... he was the epitome of macbeth imho

Exactly, and now I know why I like him.

Dan296 · 09-11-2007

well ive only read Fulgrim and Flight of the Eisenstien, and I liked Fulgrim more. As soon as the other three are ordered by the book store near me ill pick em up

Spartan-11755 · 09-15-2007

*SPOILER ALERT DO NOT READ IF YOU WANT TO READ FULGRIM!!!!!!!!!!!!*

Lol Horus's face was priceless when he saw fulgrim in the end and what he had become I saw that perfectly in my minds eye sooo awsome then again books are the gateway to the minds eye right?

Spartan-11755 · 09-15-2007

also with dans khorne intrest Remember Khorne used to be the embodiment of the martial pride and battle prowness. Ranged and cc he was not some blood crazed nut he was a noble proud warrior great at everything fighting not just slaughter. This is shown in Kharn I guess the most well somewhat.... i mean all pre phyco ****

Spartan2154 · 11-19-2007

Yeah, i finished Fulrim like a month ago but forgot about this thread...

anyway... Fulgrim-awesome

best one of the books so far, the end was by far the best part, the drop-pod massacre was painted really vividly in my imagination, and...just...i dont even know

get it for starters....greatest book i've ever read, really...haha

Torquemada Coteaz · 11-19-2007

I agree with the bit about Tarvitz escaping.
I also think Loken and Torgaddon may have escaped too.
Also, torgaddon may have turned evil. (Sabertooth)

Can't wait till legion...

Spartan2154 · 11-19-2007

Torgaddons dead mate, lost his head to a broadsword...

But Loken might have escaped

At least i like to think so.

Lord Commander Erus · 11-19-2007

True.. I think it really brings a depth and humanity to the primarchs in this book. We see them fall prey to the primal emotions and desires we all have... Pride, vanity, jealously, rage. It makes the Heresy seem much more understandable.

Spartan2154 · 11-19-2007

Well said! It proves also that the loyalist primarchs are the stronger, as they have not fallen to corruption or heresy.

Lord Commander Erus · 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Spartan2154

Well said! It proves also that the loyalist primarchs are the stronger, as they have not fallen to corruption or heresy.

Not necessarily. some of them, like Magnus or Curze, didn't necessarily fall to corruption first off. They turned because of being forced to (Magnus was outcast) or disagreeing with the Imperium's evolution, rather than wanting to use chaos, they just wanted the Imperium gone.

Ides · 11-20-2007

it also proves that Horus might have been onto something in the Heresy. Despite the Imperial truth, no-one really believed that the emperor was, at the end of the day, human and thus made mistakes. We see the result of that now. Hiding the webway gate project from his 'trusted' generals, arrogance, a certain blind refusal to heed the Primarchs' pleas.

Lord Commander Erus · 11-20-2007

It is set up perfectly for a game. Neither faction is, from an impartial and objective point of view (which is actually, as discussed with a former philosophy teacher this eve, a complete and utter farce.. Being human makes you unable to be impartial, by definition, imho) there is no right or wrong side. They each have their mistakes, and their truths.

Torquemada Coteaz · 11-20-2007

Once again, I reiterate that in Sabretooth's stuff Torgaddon ends up fighting as a chaos guy.
Reanimation type things are common.
I realise that sabretooth isnt reliable at all (pretty much)
but I did state that was my reference. Just putting it out there that it was one possible occurance

Biadetic · 11-23-2007

AAhh, iv got to say, im making my way nicely through Fulgrim, theyve just beat up the Eldar avatar guy etc...and iv got to say, so far from Horus I,II,III and Eisenstein, Fulgrim is easily my favourite so far

Biadetic · 11-26-2007

well, i just finshed it last night. got to say, Great book ! my favourite so far in this heresy saga !! has anyone read anythign else of graham mac neils???

Is descent of angels good?? i need to find it,

^^

Joachim · 02-22-2008

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Originally Posted by Biadetic

well, i just finshed it last night. got to say, Great book ! my favourite so far in this heresy saga !! has anyone read anythign else of graham mac neils???

Is descent of angels good?? i need to find it,

^^

The Ultramarines omnibus is by Graham Mcneil and is excellent. The first has them putting down rebellion on pavonis, the second book is a really cool Tyranid Invasion and the third which i think was the worst has Uriel Ventris on a chaos planet.

08-25-2007	#1 (permalink)
Lord Commander Erus Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,324 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 172 Thanked 316 Times in 217 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Fulgrim I just finish it tonight, finally. I must say when I first picked it up, it was rather slow and dull to me. The pace seemed forced, etc.. But, a few chapters in and I was HOOKED. The more and more the Legion turned to Slaanesh, the more and more I was drawn in. The author has a SUPERB talent at describing opulence and such in great, vivid sentences that create almost crystal clear pictures in my head. If for naught but the imagery alone, I reccomend this. Plus, I officially hate the Laer... May they burn in hell. Also, I won't spoiler anything... But given what Lucius and Edilon said about what Rylanor was doing on Isstavan III, what do you guys think happened to Tarvitz NOW? Please, let me know what you think of this book. The description of what happened in La Fenice I thought was exceptionally awesome.

09-09-2007	#2 (permalink)
Dan296 The Dark Apostle Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,692 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 13 Thanked 59 Times in 33 Posts	ok, so i just finished it.... for some reason the primarchs are perfect tragic heroes. Fulgrim especially reminded me of Macbeth, in that he truly thought he did the right thing and wanted to better himself but once he realized how far he had fallen he knew it was too late to go back. the author is amazingly good at discribing the slide into decadance and what happens in La Fenice towards the end and the conflicting emotions of the primarchs. now, im repulsed by chaos and dissapointed with myself for following khorne...aak!! must....fight....BFTBG!!! anyway.... now for Flight of the Eisenstien! and as for Tarvitz warning, spoiler alert i think he lives the Isstvan III massacre, because he couldve followed the ancient into the catacombs beneath the planet. from there, they and any loyalist survivors couldve escaped once the traitors leave. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I am a leaf on the wind Watch how i soar To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

09-10-2007	#3 (permalink)
Templar Mikeel Major Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,785 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 220 Thanked 159 Times in 98 Posts	I still have to read horus rising. Which would you say is your favorite of the three you have read, Dan/Erus? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Don't To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. the Killer! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Spartan2154 Corporal Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ConCreTe JuNgLe (southern California, US) Posts: 228 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Blog Entries: 17	on the contrary, i enjoyed flight the most actually, second favorite would have to be galaxy in flames. I have yet to get fulgrim but i want it so bad.... __________________ There are those that say war cannot be described by music, or sound; that there is no song to describe battle. I tell you now, the screams of the dying, the quake of the trembling earth, the howl of gunfire, the laughter of the gods of war, the crunch of bone beneath the axe...all are part of the ultimate symphony of carnage. My Chainaxe is my instrument, as i play the song of death. -Spartan2154 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

09-11-2007	#8 (permalink)
Dan296 The Dark Apostle Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,692 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 13 Thanked 59 Times in 33 Posts	well ive only read Fulgrim and Flight of the Eisenstien, and I liked Fulgrim more. As soon as the other three are ordered by the book store near me ill pick em up __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I am a leaf on the wind Watch how i soar To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-19-2007	#11 (permalink)
Spartan2154 Corporal Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ConCreTe JuNgLe (southern California, US) Posts: 228 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Blog Entries: 17	Yeah, i finished Fulrim like a month ago but forgot about this thread... anyway... Fulgrim-awesome best one of the books so far, the end was by far the best part, the drop-pod massacre was painted really vividly in my imagination, and...just...i dont even know get it for starters....greatest book i've ever read, really...haha __________________ There are those that say war cannot be described by music, or sound; that there is no song to describe battle. I tell you now, the screams of the dying, the quake of the trembling earth, the howl of gunfire, the laughter of the gods of war, the crunch of bone beneath the axe...all are part of the ultimate symphony of carnage. My Chainaxe is my instrument, as i play the song of death. -Spartan2154 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-19-2007	#12 (permalink)
Torquemada Coteaz The Grammar Cop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the TC personal =][= estate on Encaladus Posts: 1,745 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 56 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts Blog Entries: 4	I agree with the bit about Tarvitz escaping. I also think Loken and Torgaddon may have escaped too. Also, torgaddon may have turned evil. (Sabertooth) Can't wait till legion... __________________ My Site: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. All of my stuff are there. Current Projects, etc. General Wargaming Guide: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Picture/Art Blog: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) Asomrof: Crusade Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Crusaders Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) "2k7-2k8 NHL Season" Crusade (i.e. Ottawa Senators) [WIP] To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-19-2007	#13 (permalink)
Spartan2154 Corporal Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ConCreTe JuNgLe (southern California, US) Posts: 228 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Blog Entries: 17	Torgaddons dead mate, lost his head to a broadsword... But Loken might have escaped At least i like to think so. __________________ There are those that say war cannot be described by music, or sound; that there is no song to describe battle. I tell you now, the screams of the dying, the quake of the trembling earth, the howl of gunfire, the laughter of the gods of war, the crunch of bone beneath the axe...all are part of the ultimate symphony of carnage. My Chainaxe is my instrument, as i play the song of death. -Spartan2154 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-19-2007	#14 (permalink)
Lord Commander Erus Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,324 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 172 Thanked 316 Times in 217 Posts Blog Entries: 3	True.. I think it really brings a depth and humanity to the primarchs in this book. We see them fall prey to the primal emotions and desires we all have... Pride, vanity, jealously, rage. It makes the Heresy seem much more understandable.

11-19-2007	#15 (permalink)
Spartan2154 Corporal Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ConCreTe JuNgLe (southern California, US) Posts: 228 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Blog Entries: 17	Well said! It proves also that the loyalist primarchs are the stronger, as they have not fallen to corruption or heresy. __________________ There are those that say war cannot be described by music, or sound; that there is no song to describe battle. I tell you now, the screams of the dying, the quake of the trembling earth, the howl of gunfire, the laughter of the gods of war, the crunch of bone beneath the axe...all are part of the ultimate symphony of carnage. My Chainaxe is my instrument, as i play the song of death. -Spartan2154 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-20-2007	#17 (permalink)
Ides Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,067 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 17 Thanked 37 Times in 36 Posts Blog Entries: 4	it also proves that Horus might have been onto something in the Heresy. Despite the Imperial truth, no-one really believed that the emperor was, at the end of the day, human and thus made mistakes. We see the result of that now. Hiding the webway gate project from his 'trusted' generals, arrogance, a certain blind refusal to heed the Primarchs' pleas. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. The opinions posted above are solely the property of the Ides account and are in no way representative of those views held by the staff of this forum. "I'd consider him dangerous...he's too hairy not to be." Phil Ken Sebben For sale: One soul. Mint Condition, never been used.

11-20-2007	#18 (permalink)
Lord Commander Erus Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,324 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 172 Thanked 316 Times in 217 Posts Blog Entries: 3	It is set up perfectly for a game. Neither faction is, from an impartial and objective point of view (which is actually, as discussed with a former philosophy teacher this eve, a complete and utter farce.. Being human makes you unable to be impartial, by definition, imho) there is no right or wrong side. They each have their mistakes, and their truths.

11-20-2007	#19 (permalink)
Torquemada Coteaz The Grammar Cop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the TC personal =][= estate on Encaladus Posts: 1,745 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 56 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Once again, I reiterate that in Sabretooth's stuff Torgaddon ends up fighting as a chaos guy. Reanimation type things are common. I realise that sabretooth isnt reliable at all (pretty much) but I did state that was my reference. Just putting it out there that it was one possible occurance __________________ My Site: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. All of my stuff are there. Current Projects, etc. General Wargaming Guide: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Picture/Art Blog: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) Asomrof: Crusade Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Crusaders Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) "2k7-2k8 NHL Season" Crusade (i.e. Ottawa Senators) [WIP] To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-23-2007	#20 (permalink)
Biadetic Corporal Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 316 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 17 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	AAhh, iv got to say, im making my way nicely through Fulgrim, theyve just beat up the Eldar avatar guy etc...and iv got to say, so far from Horus I,II,III and Eisenstein, Fulgrim is easily my favourite so far __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-26-2007	#21 (permalink)
Biadetic Corporal Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 316 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 17 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	well, i just finshed it last night. got to say, Great book ! my favourite so far in this heresy saga !! has anyone read anythign else of graham mac neils??? Is descent of angels good?? i need to find it, ^^ __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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