orcslayer

[lord marcus]

i pretty much hated it. in the other books, like skavenslayer, i loved, but i hate this. the reason some other guy wrote it!

thats right, nathan long has replaced the beloved william king in the gotrek novels...sob

[Warmaster Romulas]

thats why i didnt read it
i really only liike
abnett and king's writing
i think they just grab me with their writing
the other writers are ok too

[Baron von Lexus]

I thought this was a great book. To me Gotrek and Felix seem to get better and better each book. I'm not really partial to any of the writers over others, to me its just another chance to immerse myself in 40k or Warhammer.

BvL

[lord marcus]

and how was a SPOILER WARNING giant white grasshopper with a ginormous wieght problem supposed to be a super powerfull daemon?

[Imperial Commander Gent]

Daemons can take any size or shape, and it wasnt a giant grasshopper, it resembled a giant grasshopper!

[Baron von Lexus]

Who cares it was incredibly nasty and disgusting, and they Killed it!

[Imperial Commander Gent]

I loved the book personally, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion!

[Drax]

i was determined to hate this book before i read it, but it being warhammer's 'Flagship' series, i couldn't ignore it.

by the end of the book i loved it! and by the way, Manslayer is going well at the moment.

Nathan Long is a decent writer as far as i am concerned, and he did what Bill King should never have allowed to be required - he reigned in the characters!

you see, the Bill King books got too carried away. in the first story of Trollslayer, Gotrek was an accomplished fighter and Felix Jeager was an almost reasonable brawler - by Giantslayer, it might as well have been 'Grungni and Sigmar vs The Universe'! put simply, he allowed the two to become flawless - there was no situation they couldn't handle, no Horde of enemy they couldn't slay to the man. they also became 2 dimensional

what Nathan Long is now trying to do is to 'humanise' them again - give them character flaws and define their limits - something that those that read the originals may not thank him for!

Felix is now very aware that he is not as strong or as flippant as when he met Gotrek and that the world is moving on without him and he is missing so much, he is also starting to realise that Gotrek isn't as invincible as he appeared - Gotrek's weakness isn't so much a phyisical deficiency but rather a psychological one - he isn't afraid to step up to the mark, but he is afraid of never acheiving his doom (something that becomes more and more obvious), he is also blindsided by his past and those that he trusted he finds he may not be able to and those that he didn't, perhaps he could have. in short, Gotrek is increasingly unable to hide his past away, and that worries him

don't forget that Bill King also wrote the Ragnar series, and although they are nice easy reads, they have no substance which 'Lee Lightner' is now trying hard to rectify.

i hope this gives you a different perspective on the book, i know that although first time round i loved the King books, these days i will take Long over King any day!

[Imperial Commander Gent]

I could not have said that better myself!

[Warmaster Romulas]

i guess i might give this book a try
thanks for the insight drax

[lord marcus]

thanks drax, on second thought, it was good, but i like the "supder duper in your face" type of thing king did still, anyways, does anyone know what happend to king?