New guy here tell me some stuff - 40K Terra

tauwarrior23 · 10-06-2007

Hi I'm Lachlan I'm new to warhammer and forums so cut me some slack if ya think I'm dumb,I don't have any warhammer figures(yet) and I like tau.
can someone help me get started

tauwarrior23

kenshin620 · 10-06-2007

well I'd recommend getting the battle for macragge first but if you want to jump in already I suggest th tau battle force

http://store.us.games-workshop.com/s...061&GameNav=10

Gregor Xenos · 10-06-2007

MacCragge will give you a few minis and a working knowledge of the game mechanics. You can pick it up on eBay for lower than MSRP usually.

Tau??? too bad. ha ha ha jk

tauwarrior23 · 10-06-2007

ok thanks guys but I'm in australia what would it be here

Baron Spikey · 10-06-2007

What these guys have said already is right. (well not Gregor's 'subtle' mocking of the Tau

) I really would suggest you pick up a Tau battleforce as it's one of the few battleforces available that contains an entire legal army (your minimum requirements are 1HQ and 2Troops) most dont have a HQ included, though the Space Marines and their Chaotic counterparts can have a HQ created/converted from the all the bits in the battlefield box.

If theres a GW/gaming club near you i'd recommend visiting and seeing if you can borrow one of the store's small armies to play a game, see if you actually like the way Tau play and if they suit your playing style.
Playing Styles can vary so much that its important to get the army that suits you rather than try to force yourself to play an army that you dont find a laugh to battle with. I personally play Space Marines because im a terrible general but Marines are forgiving enough to look past that (as long as your opponent isn't a fearsome veteran) though SM dont generally excell in any one area without having to except a number of disadvantages.

Tau on the other hand are the closest thing in 40K to modern warfare (i know IG would seem like the ideal example but stay with me). They operate in squads rather than huge platoons, they emphasise rapid response and combined arms rather than static firing lines (theres more but i just saw the clock and it was my bed time

3hrs ago). I've generalised and rambled but i hope i've been some help.

Baron Spikey · 10-06-2007

Battle of Macragge

http://oz.games-workshop.com/storefr...002&orignav=10

Tau Battleforce

http://oz.games-workshop.com/storefr...011&orignav=10

hairyyahoo · 10-06-2007

here's a link to gw australia that might get ya started. somewhere in there is a list of stores. find one that's relatively close and visit it. talk with the staff who'll be able to help, even if it's an independant stockist.

tauwarrior23 · 10-08-2007

ok the only thing I've got so say is that I'm only 11 is that too young thanks
tauwarrior23

ps fell free to call me lachlan if you know me

Gregor Xenos · 10-08-2007

Nah, 11 is a good age to start! If younger kids can pick up complicated "stack mechanics" and eratta of Magic... this should be no problem.

Besides start painting and converting now.. (dont be discouraged, your first pieces will most likely not be that hot. It does take practice! And youve definatly hit the right site for tips) and by the time youre old enough to drive, you could be making $$$ painting for others!

Always remember: HAVE FUN WITH IT!!!

hairyyahoo · 10-08-2007

tauwarrior, or lachlan is it? why not swing on over to the intro's board and post up a 'hello' thread? let all us crazies get to know you a bit better

tauwarrior23 · 10-09-2007

ok done everyone thankyou

Lachlan

themandalorian · 11-19-2007

Good info, I'm also getting into Tau i think

I can't figure out if my GW store is closed or not, guess i have to call them

Lord Commander Erus · 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by themandalorian

Good info, I'm also getting into Tau i think

I can't figure out if my GW store is closed or not, guess i have to call them

Noooooooo! go SM! BAD FISHY!

A good way to check actually is to call GW customer service. If the store is closed, the blokes are nice enough they'll actually give you the listing of all stores within a certain mile/time away radius.

Wakim · 11-19-2007

Imho, the most important thing for you to do is somehow borrow an army and play a couple of games before you decide anything

themandalorian · 11-20-2007

I have no friends though

that play

I think i'll go to my local store and see them play, they have big games every sunday

God it's so hard for me to go, my dad's always working.

When i go to play, what to do you think good idea to bring him and have him play?

Ikarus said he plays tau, and i love shooting

at least in video games.

heres my top 3

Tau
necron or space marine

Stubber · 11-20-2007

Tau are excellent at shooting, but not good at most other things (for the most part, don't even think about close combat)

Marines are good all rounders, and are hard to kill too.
They'd be good for beginners but you don't get the chance to use some specialised tactics, like Mechanised Tau using Fish Of Fury.

TheKiller333 · 11-20-2007

I'd suggest you start with a simpler army than Tau to begin with (Though not exactly the most complicated army ruleswise, they're hard for beginners to pick up. I've seen it. It's painful.)

Marines or Chaos are a good place to start. Marines are a very easy starting army to use, especially with the Battle For Macragge beginner's box-set. It'll set you up with some paints and a small lot of minis, including Tyranids which are an extremely fun army!

*Grins*
*Proceeds to poke everyone here, run off and hide behind a tree*
Yeah... ok.... O.o

Torquemada Coteaz · 11-20-2007

Well, don't entirely discourage him from doing Tau.
I've seen some pretty successful beginners with Tau.
Plus, there are just WAY too many Marines and CSM out there...
FARRRRRRRR too overplayed.

TheKiller333 · 11-20-2007

Ah, and there i have to agree. Basically: Choose the army that suits you, but don't start off to hard. =]

Torquemada Coteaz · 11-20-2007

I would say Inquisition is definitely not a good starting point though, and for reasons not the least of which is that it's uber-expensive. (5 Grey Knights in Power Armour are as much as a land raider)

themandalorian · 11-20-2007

What do you guys think of Necrons then

In your opinions how hard is it really to paint and put together the models

And Ikarus come help me

Torquemada Coteaz · 11-21-2007

Assembly: pretty easy, though I've seen a few people mess up with the glowy-stick due to fogging/painting.
Necrons opinion: Personally I don't like them, but to each their own. (WARSCYTHES ARE NASTY!)

Battle-Ranch · 11-21-2007

being pretty new at this as well i just thought someone should tell you not to jump in to fast. Build your army steadly (no Need for 2000 points on your second game), take your time painting (you'll feel better about an army you took your time on) and don't forget to have fun with it!

Torquemada Coteaz · 11-21-2007

Agrees with Battle-Ranch
especially on the take your time building your army part.
Why?
because if you start slowly (with core 500pts block) you can switch easier to another army if you don't like the current.

Ikarus · 11-21-2007

If tau were hard...

I wouldn't power game so hard haha.

=)

I ruin the game.. i think.. but its fun..

masterofweirdness · 11-21-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torquemada Coteaz

Assembly: pretty easy, though I've seen a few people mess up with the glowy-stick due to fogging/painting.
Necrons opinion: Personally I don't like them, but to each their own. (WARSCYTHES ARE NASTY!)

From what i know of their rules they seem to be a bit 2D... but, they are amazignly hard...

Another thing is I have heard that they have the problem of needing to stay within rapid fire range, but out of assault... which is a bit hard... considering assault range IS rapid fire range...

Oh, and if you want to buy Mcragge (GOOD BUY!) I would suggest playing the tyranids... they are totally awesome. Their models are a bit weird, but they have some of the most brutal CC warriors... hormagaunts can be in assault by turn one (though you need a 6 to do so...), the Broodlord is THE MOST FREAKING SCARY CC

10-06-2007	#1 (permalink)
tauwarrior23 Conscript Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New guy here tell me some stuff Hi I'm Lachlan I'm new to warhammer and forums so cut me some slack if ya think I'm dumb,I don't have any warhammer figures(yet) and I like tau. can someone help me get started tauwarrior23

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Baron Spikey Adeptus Primarch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Somewhere between Crewe and Stoke in the Midlands Posts: 1,947 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 72 Thanked 146 Times in 114 Posts Blog Entries: 1	What these guys have said already is right. (well not Gregor's 'subtle' mocking of the Tau) I really would suggest you pick up a Tau battleforce as it's one of the few battleforces available that contains an entire legal army (your minimum requirements are 1HQ and 2Troops) most dont have a HQ included, though the Space Marines and their Chaotic counterparts can have a HQ created/converted from the all the bits in the battlefield box. If theres a GW/gaming club near you i'd recommend visiting and seeing if you can borrow one of the store's small armies to play a game, see if you actually like the way Tau play and if they suit your playing style. Playing Styles can vary so much that its important to get the army that suits you rather than try to force yourself to play an army that you dont find a laugh to battle with. I personally play Space Marines because im a terrible general but Marines are forgiving enough to look past that (as long as your opponent isn't a fearsome veteran) though SM dont generally excell in any one area without having to except a number of disadvantages. Tau on the other hand are the closest thing in 40K to modern warfare (i know IG would seem like the ideal example but stay with me). They operate in squads rather than huge platoons, they emphasise rapid response and combined arms rather than static firing lines (theres more but i just saw the clock and it was my bed time 3hrs ago). I've generalised and rambled but i hope i've been some help. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* Battles Updated Daily (Enter via Insignia)

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Baron Spikey Adeptus Primarch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Somewhere between Crewe and Stoke in the Midlands Posts: 1,947 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 72 Thanked 146 Times in 114 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Battle of Macragge http://oz.games-workshop.com/storefr...002&orignav=10 Tau Battleforce http://oz.games-workshop.com/storefr...011&orignav=10 __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* Battles Updated Daily (Enter via Insignia)

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Stubber Confused and Enraged Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South-east Ireland Posts: 965 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 13 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts	Tau are excellent at shooting, but not good at most other things (for the most part, don't even think about close combat) Marines are good all rounders, and are hard to kill too. They'd be good for beginners but you don't get the chance to use some specialised tactics, like Mechanised Tau using Fish Of Fury. __________________ The thing that inspires men to kill is Hatred. -Sun Tzu To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Vote On The Battlefield: For any concerned I'll be online much more often once exams end friday 23rd.

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kenshin620 Corporal Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 452 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 9 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts Blog Entries: 1	well I'd recommend getting the battle for macragge first but if you want to jump in already I suggest th tau battle force http://store.us.games-workshop.com/s...061&GameNav=10

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tauwarrior23 Conscript Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok thanks guys but I'm in australia what would it be here

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tauwarrior23 Conscript Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok the only thing I've got so say is that I'm only 11 is that too young thanks tauwarrior23 ps fell free to call me lachlan if you know me

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tauwarrior23 Conscript Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok done everyone thankyou Lachlan

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themandalorian Corporal Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 385 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 4 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts	Good info, I'm also getting into Tau i think I can't figure out if my GW store is closed or not, guess i have to call them

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themandalorian Corporal Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 385 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 4 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts	I have no friends though that play I think i'll go to my local store and see them play, they have big games every sunday God it's so hard for me to go, my dad's always working. When i go to play, what to do you think good idea to bring him and have him play? Ikarus said he plays tau, and i love shooting at least in video games. heres my top 3 Tau necron or space marine

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TheKiller333 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Im not entirely sure. I think im stuck inside an alternate reality where im blue and the sky is me. Posts: 966 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 36 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I'd suggest you start with a simpler army than Tau to begin with (Though not exactly the most complicated army ruleswise, they're hard for beginners to pick up. I've seen it. It's painful.) Marines or Chaos are a good place to start. Marines are a very easy starting army to use, especially with the Battle For Macragge beginner's box-set. It'll set you up with some paints and a small lot of minis, including Tyranids which are an extremely fun army! Grins Proceeds to poke everyone here, run off and hide behind a tree Yeah... ok.... O.o

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Torquemada Coteaz The Grammar Cop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the TC personal =][= estate on Encaladus Posts: 1,745 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 56 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Well, don't entirely discourage him from doing Tau. I've seen some pretty successful beginners with Tau. Plus, there are just WAY too many Marines and CSM out there... FARRRRRRRR too overplayed. __________________ My Site: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. All of my stuff are there. Current Projects, etc. General Wargaming Guide: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Picture/Art Blog: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) Asomrof: Crusade Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Crusaders Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) "2k7-2k8 NHL Season" Crusade (i.e. Ottawa Senators) [WIP] To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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TheKiller333 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Im not entirely sure. I think im stuck inside an alternate reality where im blue and the sky is me. Posts: 966 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 36 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Ah, and there i have to agree. Basically: Choose the army that suits you, but don't start off to hard. =]

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Torquemada Coteaz The Grammar Cop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the TC personal =][= estate on Encaladus Posts: 1,745 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 56 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts Blog Entries: 4	I would say Inquisition is definitely not a good starting point though, and for reasons not the least of which is that it's uber-expensive. (5 Grey Knights in Power Armour are as much as a land raider) __________________ My Site: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. All of my stuff are there. Current Projects, etc. General Wargaming Guide: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Picture/Art Blog: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) Asomrof: Crusade Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Crusaders Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) "2k7-2k8 NHL Season" Crusade (i.e. Ottawa Senators) [WIP] To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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themandalorian Corporal Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 385 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 4 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts	What do you guys think of Necrons then In your opinions how hard is it really to paint and put together the models And Ikarus come help me

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Torquemada Coteaz The Grammar Cop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the TC personal =][= estate on Encaladus Posts: 1,745 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 56 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Assembly: pretty easy, though I've seen a few people mess up with the glowy-stick due to fogging/painting. Necrons opinion: Personally I don't like them, but to each their own. (WARSCYTHES ARE NASTY!) __________________ My Site: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. All of my stuff are there. Current Projects, etc. General Wargaming Guide: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Picture/Art Blog: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) Asomrof: Crusade Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Crusaders Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) "2k7-2k8 NHL Season" Crusade (i.e. Ottawa Senators) [WIP] To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Battle-Ranch Corporal Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 223 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 20 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts Blog Entries: 2	being pretty new at this as well i just thought someone should tell you not to jump in to fast. Build your army steadly (no Need for 2000 points on your second game), take your time painting (you'll feel better about an army you took your time on) and don't forget to have fun with it! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Torquemada Coteaz The Grammar Cop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the TC personal =][= estate on Encaladus Posts: 1,745 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 56 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Agrees with Battle-Ranch especially on the take your time building your army part. Why? because if you start slowly (with core 500pts block) you can switch easier to another army if you don't like the current. __________________ My Site: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. All of my stuff are there. Current Projects, etc. General Wargaming Guide: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Picture/Art Blog: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) Asomrof: Crusade Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Crusaders Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) "2k7-2k8 NHL Season" Crusade (i.e. Ottawa Senators) [WIP] To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Ikarus Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 1,455 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 57 Thanked 277 Times in 96 Posts Blog Entries: 3	If tau were hard... I wouldn't power game so hard haha. =) I ruin the game.. i think.. but its fun.. __________________ HORDES: TROLL BLOOD: 1.250k Pts To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. BATTLEFIELD 40k: VOTE VOTE VOTE To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.