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Old 04-09-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Talking Isabella Von Castein\some funny zombies

Well im almost done my Isabella, which was a really really easy paint job (she still needs her touch ups as dose vlad which ill do when i have more time)









and just because they look awesome next to each other...(damn i need to fix those eyes)


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Stuff looks good, gotta love those zombies
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Stuff looks good, gotta love those zombies
Thanks and im tempted to get more zombie's just for the stones....they make a much funnier model.
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Is that the new von carsten models?....nice! I like your color choices and i really like tha skin tone you chose! VERY undead-esque.
Now that being said your brushwork could use a tighten twist or 2. there are quite a few stray strokes in places and as you said the eyes are everywhere. Also I would like to see some sort of shade wash on this as it would be a tremendous bennie! maybe a imperial purple or neauseating blue thinned down and washed???
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Is that the new von carsten models?....nice! I like your color choices and i really like tha skin tone you chose! VERY undead-esque.
Now that being said your brushwork could use a tighten twist or 2. there are quite a few stray strokes in places and as you said the eyes are everywhere. Also I would like to see some sort of shade wash on this as it would be a tremendous bennie! maybe a imperial purple or neauseating blue thinned down and washed???

ya they both need touch ups im going to do that when i have time @ the local gw since they have more paints then me, Plus that is\isent Isabella they dident make a new version of her but it is modeled after her and can use her rules so.......ya.... Plus im trying to make my army the more "classic" style vampires not fugly and gut ripping but rich and smart.
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not a bad start! however, that being said some things i heartily recomend you try out to improve on what's there;
a) thin your paints down. this next to learning 're-pointing' your brush are the two main keys to great minature painting. you should never use paint of any kind strait from the bottle (especially inks!) always, always, always water down the paint onto your palet. (btw, what does your GW store use for painting pallets?!)

b) shade/highlight the skin. honestly, it's quite difficult for example to tell where isabella's hand ends and the skull she's holding begins!
a nice coat of flesh ink, perhaps with a bit of dark green ink mixed in and then highlighted up through say elf flesh/pallid flesh/skull white would really look the part!

c) red's a hard colour to deal with in all honesty. try giving the red areas a wash of thined down brown ink and then work back up through scab red ---> red gore.

d) the blue on isabella personally doesn't fit... it's too bright and almost a bit cartooney. (did you use enchanted blue?) try a couple layers of blue ink mixed with a bit of chaos black (and of corse, watered down!) then try highlighting with regal blue as it's a nice dark, moody tone

e) the sword also looks a bit goofy imho in red... keep it metal! or else really, really darken it - take a look through the chaos mortals book and have a peek at the various runeswords/tainted blades.

f) the face is always the focal point of any model. if it's still a bit too shaky to use a standard brush, go to a fine detail brush for such areas.
also, while it's great to see the effort, don't try things like eyes right away as they're that tricky & important! (hell, i still only paint my eyes white and i've been at this for 11 years!)
get the basics of highlighting the face itself; checks, jaw & brow down first. even without eyes, a well highlighted face still looks amazing!

anyways, i hope this helps,
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Stitch really did nail it square on... Also, a black ink wash, very lightly, on the inside of vlads cloak might help. You've got an ok base going, just need some finer details down!
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not a bad start! however, that being said some things i heartily recomend you try out to improve on what's there;
a) thin your paints down. this next to learning 're-pointing' your brush are the two main keys to great minature painting. you should never use paint of any kind strait from the bottle (especially inks!) always, always, always water down the paint onto your palet. (btw, what does your GW store use for painting pallets?!)

b) shade/highlight the skin. honestly, it's quite difficult for example to tell where isabella's hand ends and the skull she's holding begins!
a nice coat of flesh ink, perhaps with a bit of dark green ink mixed in and then highlighted up through say elf flesh/pallid flesh/skull white would really look the part!

c) red's a hard colour to deal with in all honesty. try giving the red areas a wash of thined down brown ink and then work back up through scab red ---> red gore.

d) the blue on isabella personally doesn't fit... it's too bright and almost a bit cartooney. (did you use enchanted blue?) try a couple layers of blue ink mixed with a bit of chaos black (and of corse, watered down!) then try highlighting with regal blue as it's a nice dark, moody tone

e) the sword also looks a bit goofy imho in red... keep it metal! or else really, really darken it - take a look through the chaos mortals book and have a peek at the various runeswords/tainted blades.

f) the face is always the focal point of any model. if it's still a bit too shaky to use a standard brush, go to a fine detail brush for such areas.
also, while it's great to see the effort, don't try things like eyes right away as they're that tricky & important! (hell, i still only paint my eyes white and i've been at this for 11 years!)
get the basics of highlighting the face itself; checks, jaw & brow down first. even without eyes, a well highlighted face still looks amazing!

anyways, i hope this helps,
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once again stitch and her infamous brush repointing!!!!

seriously though she has some really good pointers. your assembly of the models is outstanding. i like the poses and way you did the skeletons. very nice.

on the painting i kinda went

for doing the eyes i have a different suggestion than stich. when i do faces (either masked or bare) i do the base coat on the whole face then i do the eyes. then i go back and do my next coat on the face and start my highlighting. its far easier to go around the eyes when they are done then to avoid the rest of the face trying to do a little bitty area!!! and by doing the eyes before the majority of the face you can cover up any slipps when you did the eyes.

also (and its taken me a while to get this down) you might want to look into feathering a bit. you have no real transition between some of your colors. they just break off into the next color (mainly i see it with the purple/blue). the easiest way i've come to do this is to take the lighter collor and basically just drybrush the edges of the transition point lightly to do a fade to/from the darker color. it doesnt have to be a hugh transition just a mm or 2 but it will really help out.


oh and am i correct in that when you took the pics you were using the flash on the camera?? you have some really hard glares on the model like a flash went off. if so would you mind retaking the pics with better room light and no flash? this may change the way we can see the models and may alleviate some of the critiquing we're slamming you with.

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