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Old 02-22-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone,

I am in Scotland (But I'm american) and I recently had family send me over some Apple Barrel paints (They sent white, green, red, black, and blue) and I was hoping some of you folks that have more experience using this paint could give me some tips, color combos', etc. I am workiing on my deathwing and 3 Co of Dark Angels and since this stuff is hard to get I don't want to waste a drop.....

Thanks and Look forward to some great tips
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Default Re: Just a little help needed :)

sorry to tell you that you are gonna have to experiment mixing the colors
there isnt any thing i can tell you to help with that
but the good news is ABpaints are so thick you have to thin then out with a lot of water
thus actually giving you a little paint to waste experimenting
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Default Re: Just a little help needed :)

You could really go for having a yellow to complete your color wheel. I know your plight. I was in Japan last year and I didn't want to buy a whole new paint set. I ended up with about 11 paints to make an entire Ork army that used a lot of different camo schemes. It's all about knowing your color wheel. You could really go for having a yellow to complete your primary colors and unless you want to paint with the Non-Metallic Metal technique you will want a metal paint.

Conserving paints and mixing don't really go hand in hand. Just make sure you have all of your models ready before you mix up your paint. You should have two pallets; one regular dry one and one wet pallet. Also make sure to keep adding water to your mix and keep it from drying.

Since you are painting Dark Angels here is a good tip for green. Adding red to green will make the green darker. It works better than black.

If you can I'd find another airtight container and put a little bit of all of you colors into it and make a brown. You can then use the brown for your Deathwing. Brown shade coat then mix in white to make the muted white of the Deathwing.

Last thing. If you are having a hard time finding paints to buy make sure to take care of your brushes.

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Default Re: Just a little help needed :)

NP GMR Ill go to michaels/Walmart today and get some color swatches for 3rd co DA for you!! Also I'm in the us always by an Army base (me and wife are on active duty military, me not for long!!) so if you need something PM me!! No biggie as AB paints are about $1 each!!

as far as tips and tricks layer layer layer!!! water them down 2:1 or 3:1 and use multiple layering. Also if you invest in a wet pallett it will make your paints last longer.
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Default Re: Just a little help needed :)

Hi fellas,

Excellent tips, I'll do some testing and thanks Monkeyjoe for the offer I miss walmart! I've got the dry pallet, need to make myself a wet pallet (never tried that before )

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depending on where you are in scotland you could always be a bit crazy a nip to one of GW stores or Independent stockists for those paints you dont have.....just saying
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Default Re: Just a little help needed :)

I can not reccomend this formula enough for bone from apple barrel:

Antique White base coat (even over black undercoat, it WILL cover in two coats)
4 or 5:1 ratio of water:brown paint (I used GW's brown ink, but any thinned brown paint will do, just make it a VERY watery mix)
Highlight with white on raised edges, etc...

Now, for death wing, you may want to skip or even further water down that brown mixture, but that is my tip there!
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Hi Again

Well I am about 40 miles from Aberdeen and have access to normal GW paint, but was curious about the Apple Barrel paints from what I've read here. I figured the high pigment and larger size would save me 80 mile trips to and from aberdeen plus I am going to try them in my airbrush (which I am still experimenting with, only got it a month or so ago).

That formula will come in real handy LC Erus as I am rebasing my deathwing and finishing them up I hope soon Thanks

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I'll link you a pic of my chaplain so you can see the result soon.
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The head and parchment give you an idea of hwo the end result CAN look. But, the great thing about this technique is you can go thicker ink (or put more on) and darken it, or do less and lighten it, and it can be used to shade/highlight!

Also, the antique white itself may be an off white enough color for oyu for deathwing. IT's a matter of personal taste.
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Hi There,

That looks awesome, I'm going to have a go tonight and will post some results soon I think your right about the antique white, never thought IMO that the deathwing would be a gleaming white colour...

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Hey GR Sorry to Not answer you but Been busy (Wife buster her Knee up bad snowboarding!) I will get those pant colors to you shortly (in a day or 2)
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Thats cool! It's been that way here too Thanks a million!

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Pant colours munkey? I'm not sure the missus will be happy with you telling everyone

GR - you could also try the GW mailorder I also bet there is a GW nearer than Aberdeen.
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Hi there,

There is a shop that has a GW section, but they suffer from irregular hours and space constrictions. When given half a chance, I make a b-line to Aberdeen as I know they will have everything or I can at least order from there.

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