1700pt Word Bearers

[SlavetotheMachine]

Hey folks, I just wanted to share my list before it gets totally thrashed by the new Codex.

Leonidas the Dark, (named before 300 came out, by the way)
MoCU, D Stature, D Resilience, D Aura, D Strength, D Flight, D Mutation, Furious Charge, Spiky Bits, Personal Icon, CCWx2, Frag Grenades

Lt. MoCU, Infiltrate, Accursed Crozius, D Strength, Meltabombs, CCW
Retinue, 6 Chosen, MoCU, Infiltrate, 2 Plasmaguns, Daemon Icon w/Flamers

9 Chosen, MocU, Infiltrate, 2 Plasma Pistol, Meltagun, Daemon Icon w/Furies, AC has Plasma Pistol and Powerfist.

10 Furies
9 Flamers
8 Bloodletters
7 Plaguebearers
6 Daemonettes
6 Daemonettes on Steeds

63 models in 1700pts. Around where I'm from, almost all the HOH tourneys are 1700pts and lower....

This list has served me quite well, with only a few losses, but will be nearly useless once the new rules come into play. 46 Daemons becoming Vanilla is going to hurt.

And to those who would say I'm totally mad, in TheoryHammer my units get blown to bits by Battle Cannons and such like, but in reality, scattering is a real possibility. Making cover saves is also very possible, because if I deployed out in the open with only 3 units, I deserve to have the Icons blown away...

[DeAd_cOmMaNdO]

where are the marines?

[SlavetotheMachine]

Originally Posted by DeAd_cOmMaNdO

where are the marines?

Look closer. Daemons, well most of them anyway, count as Troops. The only fleshy things in the army are Chosen and the 2 Hq's....

[Inquisitor Rosenadel]

Originally Posted by SlavetotheMachine

Look closer. Daemons, well most of them anyway, count as Troops. The only fleshy things in the army are Chosen and the 2 Hq's....

You are crazy for having that many daemons and so few marines. But I could see this list working as you say it does.

Now I know the Daemon Prince can probably take down vehicles pretty decently, but what else do you use to take down armour? Daemonettes can do stuff, too, but they're not as effective.

I might try removing the Chosen (as they're a bit overpriced anyway) and go for a Havoc squad with either missile launchers or lascannons. Missile launchers would probably be better just because you can use the frag missiles if you're dealing with more of a horde.

[SlavetotheMachine]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor Rosenadel

You are crazy for having that many daemons and so few marines. But I could see this list working as you say it does.

Now I know the Daemon Prince can probably take down vehicles pretty decently, but what else do you use to take down armour? Daemonettes can do stuff, too, but they're not as effective.

I might try removing the Chosen (as they're a bit overpriced anyway) and go for a Havoc squad with either missile launchers or lascannons. Missile launchers would probably be better just because you can use the frag missiles if you're dealing with more of a horde.

The units that can take down armor are the Daemonettes, Daemonettes on Steeds, the Daemon Prince, the Chosen with the Meltagun and powerfist Champ, the Lt and his meltabombs, his retinue has 2 plasma guns. Five units that are capacble of taking out a Land Raider. Not too shabby. Pity me if a Monolith comes trundling along. I'd have to kill Warriors instead.

Oh, and I posted this list because I've won a couple of tourneys with it. As the sticky at the top of this thread of the forum requested. I just forgot to mention it.

When I set up at a tourney, I layout the terrain so as to take best advantage of it. If I play an assault army, like my Word Bearers, things go in the middle of the table to cut down on field of fire. If I play a shooty army, I tend to place terrain more out of the way......

[Inquisitor Rosenadel]

Originally Posted by SlavetotheMachine

The units that can take down armor are the Daemonettes, Daemonettes on Steeds, the Daemon Prince, the Chosen with the Meltagun and powerfist Champ, the Lt and his meltabombs, his retinue has 2 plasma guns. Five units that are capacble of taking out a Land Raider. Not too shabby. Pity me if a Monolith comes trundling along. I'd have to kill Warriors instead.

Oh, and I posted this list because I've won a couple of tourneys with it. As the sticky at the top of this thread of the forum requested. I just forgot to mention it.

When I set up at a tourney, I layout the terrain so as to take best advantage of it. If I play an assault army, like my Word Bearers, things go in the middle of the table to cut down on field of fire. If I play a shooty army, I tend to place terrain more out of the way......

Sorry, I guess I tend to go for dedicated anti-tank units, but if you;ve done that well with it, I guess it works pretty well, doesn't it? I have to read more closely: I missed the meltagun and power fist. It does seem like you have to get close to deal with armour, but again, if it works, it works. Cool list!

[SlavetotheMachine]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor Rosenadel

Sorry, I guess I tend to go for dedicated anti-tank units, but if you;ve done that well with it, I guess it works pretty well, doesn't it? I have to read more closely: I missed the meltagun and power fist. It does seem like you have to get close to deal with armour, but again, if it works, it works. Cool list!

Thanks for the input. Though, it's not often I receive praise on a list, having started playing with Necrons. Most people see that many Daemons and ask the same question you did, "Are you nuts?" Then we play and all becomes clear.

The list itself has undergone a great deal of change since I first tried it out. My dedicated anti-tank units tended to not have much to go after or they ended up overwhelmed by the amount of targets they needed to take out. Once I spread the "love" out throughout the army, I started to do better. And once I learned to start playing the game from the beginning, you know, the placing terrain part, I started doing even better. It's a learning process...

[experiment 626]

i would think an army with lots of skimmers would be a bit troubling for you though?! perhaps a daemonically possessed predator with autocannon - statistically the best weapon for killing skimmers, might help??! (and it's 'daemonic' so it still fits the daemon bomb theme, yes?)

also, it would be interesting to see your army cope with a tournament that doesn't allow the players to move about the terrain! (especially when playing on fully sculpted tables where you can't move the terrain )

cheers!

[SlavetotheMachine]

Originally Posted by experiment 626

i would think an army with lots of skimmers would be a bit troubling for you though?! perhaps a daemonically possessed predator with autocannon - statistically the best weapon for killing skimmers, might help??! (and it's 'daemonic' so it still fits the daemon bomb theme, yes?)

also, it would be interesting to see your army cope with a tournament that doesn't allow the players to move about the terrain! (especially when playing on fully sculpted tables where you can't move the terrain )

cheers!

In those tourneys, I have had a harder time, but like I had said earlier, I've learned to play this army fairly well. Oh, and the people who have skimmers around here tend to forget that they don't shoot any better if they're closer, so I usually end up catching them. Doesn't make much sense to me, either.

I remember one game at a tourney where we couldn't place terrain, my opponent and I sat and waited for someone to make a mistake. There was a big patch of empty space in the center of the table and we basically looked at each other for a couple of turns and then agreed that this was easily the most boring game we'd had all day. Then we both decided to run out and meet each other in the middle. What a bloodbath that ended up being. Really funny thing about it was we ended in a draw anyway. A much more exciting draw than we were originally going to have, but made much more worth it to do more than just stare at on another.

I hope I have not given the false impression that I am a WAAC player. I just like to have a solid, take on all comers, list.