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Old 02-18-2007   #1 (permalink)
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140 Emporers champion- accept any challenge no matter the odds

155-marshal-art armour lightening claws iron halo

140- master of sancity- art armour holy orb of antioch

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140- dreadnaught- las cannon flamer ccw

230-sword brethren- ccw lightening claws power weapon infiltrate

330- sword brethren- ccw term honors lightening claws power weapon furious charge

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176- crusader squad- ccw power fist flamer

166- crusader squad- bolters plasma gun

166- crusader squad- bolters plasma gun

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130-vindicator- xtra armour

130-predator destructor- las cannon side sponsons xtra armour

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i have alot of stuff at my disposal as follows

9 reg terms
chaplain term
mainy basic marines
rhinos
crusader
assault troops
dreads
tell me what to take out add or just whats up
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NUMBERS!

I have no idea how many men are in your squads... however, I can say this. Drop the arty armor on your HQs, its not worth it as they will most often be facing powerweapons in CC, and there are more AP2 weapons than AP3.
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all squads have 10 men
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Okay, that helps.

I don't play BT, but I've glanced at their codex and they seem pretty similar to normal SM, so here it goes.

I'd say, that, for a squad of ten single wound models, even with all their kicka** upgrades, the termie honored furious charging Sword Brethern are WAY to expensive, if you can, replace them with a normal Termie squad and a Heavy Flamer, and then deepstrike them. (I'm think of like a 8 man termie squad).

Also, the Dreadnought... simply put WTF!!! Heavy flamer AND lascannon???? That's my take at least... I think the best Dreads are just cheap normal dreads with extra armor... 110 points and a pretty balanced unit.

The ccw squad needs a rhino, as perhaps one of the other squads, either that or you need to make them smaller.

Also, you only really have 2 tank-hunting units... one of which is a fire magnet (dread). You may want to get some melta guns, or perhaps a Sword Brethern squad with tank hunters (can you do that?).

And have you considered giving your HQ's command squads? Or do they just run around wild by themselves?
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the dread is the least of my worries i play him right (ie: hes only been destroyed once in 30 games) he has the las for killin big **** and then he can follow up with a heavy flamer when hes close. the hqs go with the sword brethren squads and then the sword brethren will go behiung the other squads to keep out of fire. i dont play a lot of barrage so im worried about that. my troops are tough as hell so they are ther to soak up fire. the one sword brethren squad can infil trate which will help when they get up close and personal with people
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well, if you put an IC in with the infiltrating sword brethren squad, then they can no longer infiltrate...
also, any time reserves/escalation are in play your hq's are likely fethed because they'll likely come into play at different times than the squad/s you want them to run with!
finally, lose the artificer armour as, as pointed out above you'll hardly ever get the better save what with 'mixed armour', ap2 weapons and special close combat attacks!

lose the termie honours on the one SB squad and add some neophytes for added numbers, especially in your main assaulty templar squad!

i'd also define the pred a bit better... right now it's got 3 'main' weapons meanign if it moves it gets upto 2 shots max with the autocannon! either make it a proper annhilator or else go for heavy bolter sponsons and drive it up with your infantry!!! (8 ap4 shots/turn is very scary!)

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that tank does not move much and if it does then its running away
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ok so i drop the high dollar sb squad make the other furious charge drop art armour i can either:

add another ccw squad and give every one rhinos (all character in one)

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get another dred and 2 more ccw squads
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Rhinos.

The extra speed makes it well worth it.

Though, if you play omega missions a lot, you may want to get more CC.

Oh, and while double posting is annoying... triple is really bad. Please, edit your posts instead of multiposting.
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yea im tryin to get used to this. ummm or i could take all the other stuff drop the art armour and throw in 3 dreads and 5 full 10 man squads of either or. i still have the tanks and the hqs so yea how about that?
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