Angels Encarmine Armoured Assault - 40K Terra

Petey1016 · 03-31-2008

Well i was reading a thread over at the BnC called "way of the water warrior"
and this guy was using 2 Land Raiders in 1000pts so i thought about it and its viable and can win games. Now i like him favor the Lascannon Land Raider above the crusader as the range makes it a more viable option so i came up with this list and i plan to buy the models for it after my current project.

HQ
Libarian Hephaestus
Storm Bolter
Meltabombs
130pts
TROOPS
Tactical Squad 'Gregoris'
Plasma Gun
130pts
Tactical Squad 'Kylos'
Flamer
Power Weapon
Meltabombs
140pts
HEAVY SUPPORT
Land Raider
250pts
Land Raider
250pts
FAST ATTACK
Attack Bike
50pts
Attack Bike
50pts

1000pts exactly. Thoughts?

Also for it to go to 1500pts i would make the following additions to the list above:

Techmarine Kobalius
75pts
Land Raider
250pts
Bike Squadron Sarko
+2 Bikers
2x Meltagun
Power Weapon
175pts

how could it be improved WITHOUT removing more than one raider as i have my heart set on a 3raider army but will compromise.

Sir_Servo · 03-31-2008

Personally I can't stand Techmarines, so I would definately drop him. They just never seem to make up for their points. I would think about droping the Melta bombs, with 3 landraiders I don't think you will have a problem with Armour mix into that the fact that you are bringing to the field a few Attack Bikes I think you should be AOK. Make room for a flamer and a power weapon in Tactical Squad Gregoris. With your left over points I would invest in Extra Armour for the Land Raiders and maybe some thing extra shiny for your Librarian.

Just my two cents,
Servo

Warmaster Romulas · 03-31-2008

3 landraiders?
thats 750 pts that could be put into other things
1 land raider bare boned = 250pts
2 TL lascannon razorbacks w/o upgrades = 180pts
that would equal the lascannons and give you 70 extra points for other things
i dont field LRs until i get up to the 3000 pt mark they are to many points
against a conventional list 3 lucky shots = 750 vps thats half the point total

Sir_Servo · 03-31-2008

Normally I would be totally with you WMR, but he did say that he wanted the LR's pretty much no matter what. That is the only reason why I didn't say anything about them.

I am a little more likely to take one in even a 2000 point game than what WMR is saying, but he does make some valid points.

As long as you are prepared to either be A) really lucky against anti-tank weaponery or B) prepared to have a lot of fun, but not win very often.

Just my two cents,
Servo

Lord Commander Erus · 03-31-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warmaster Romulas

3 landraiders?
thats 750 pts that could be put into other things
1 land raider bare boned = 250pts
2 TL lascannon razorbacks w/o upgrades = 180pts
that would equal the lascannons and give you 70 extra points for other things
i dont field LRs until i get up to the 3000 pt mark they are to many points
against a conventional list 3 lucky shots = 750 vps thats half the point total

most conventional lists don't pack enough anti armor for three LR's.

Warmaster Romulas · 03-31-2008

always have fun
that is my motto

thats why i said lucky shots

Petey1016 · 04-01-2008

Erus you whacked it on the head there i plan to shove enough AV14 at the enemy that they just crumble and panic.
The techmarine is there for the "lucky" shots that immobilise or destroy one of my weapons and in the BA codex he is awesome. Artificer, power weapon bolt pistol, grenades all come standard remember.
He can hold his own in combat which is useful, the only downside is that he isnt an independant character so he is on his own. Ill probably hide him behind one of the LR's and hope for the best. the general idea is to get out and either charge or rapid fire out of the LR's, the death company will just do err stuff yea stuff and since im using only the free ones i didnt list them as i have spent 0 points on them. The attack bikes will more than likely carry heavy bolters as i willl have 6 lascannons already and the bike squad can give tanks a headache as well.
Overall it is designed for forward movement, however this movement needs to be careful as i havn't got enough models on the board to waste a unit.

I may replace the plasma gun with the power weapon and flamer while dropping the meltabombs from the other as that suggestion makes a lot of sense to me.

Thanks for your replies any other suggestions while keeping at least 2 LR's are welcome

-Petey

03-31-2008	#1 (permalink)
Petey1016 Corporal Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 247 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 14 Thanked 13 Times in 5 Posts Blog Entries: 8	Angels Encarmine Armoured Assault Well i was reading a thread over at the BnC called "way of the water warrior" and this guy was using 2 Land Raiders in 1000pts so i thought about it and its viable and can win games. Now i like him favor the Lascannon Land Raider above the crusader as the range makes it a more viable option so i came up with this list and i plan to buy the models for it after my current project. HQ Libarian Hephaestus Storm Bolter Meltabombs 130pts TROOPS Tactical Squad 'Gregoris' Plasma Gun 130pts Tactical Squad 'Kylos' Flamer Power Weapon Meltabombs 140pts HEAVY SUPPORT Land Raider 250pts Land Raider 250pts FAST ATTACK Attack Bike 50pts Attack Bike 50pts 1000pts exactly. Thoughts? Also for it to go to 1500pts i would make the following additions to the list above: Techmarine Kobalius 75pts Land Raider 250pts Bike Squadron Sarko +2 Bikers 2x Meltagun Power Weapon 175pts how could it be improved WITHOUT removing more than one raider as i have my heart set on a 3raider army but will compromise. __________________ "Drink Deep of Victory and Remember the Fallen" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-31-2008	#2 (permalink)
Sir_Servo LODGE MEMBER Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Winona, MN USA Posts: 395 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 7 Thanked 49 Times in 41 Posts	Re: Angels Encarmine Armoured Assault Personally I can't stand Techmarines, so I would definately drop him. They just never seem to make up for their points. I would think about droping the Melta bombs, with 3 landraiders I don't think you will have a problem with Armour mix into that the fact that you are bringing to the field a few Attack Bikes I think you should be AOK. Make room for a flamer and a power weapon in Tactical Squad Gregoris. With your left over points I would invest in Extra Armour for the Land Raiders and maybe some thing extra shiny for your Librarian. Just my two cents, Servo

03-31-2008	#3 (permalink)
Warmaster Romulas Captain Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: U-S-A!!U-S-A!!U-S-A!!U-S-A!!U-S-A!! Posts: 1,478 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 108 Thanked 75 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Angels Encarmine Armoured Assault 3 landraiders? thats 750 pts that could be put into other things 1 land raider bare boned = 250pts 2 TL lascannon razorbacks w/o upgrades = 180pts that would equal the lascannons and give you 70 extra points for other things i dont field LRs until i get up to the 3000 pt mark they are to many points against a conventional list 3 lucky shots = 750 vps thats half the point total __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ""A true patriot is a lover of his country who rebukes and does not excuse its sins." Frederick Douglass To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. * new items added 4/6/08 * tomb king army up for trade

03-31-2008	#4 (permalink)
Sir_Servo LODGE MEMBER Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Winona, MN USA Posts: 395 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 7 Thanked 49 Times in 41 Posts	Re: Angels Encarmine Armoured Assault Normally I would be totally with you WMR, but he did say that he wanted the LR's pretty much no matter what. That is the only reason why I didn't say anything about them. I am a little more likely to take one in even a 2000 point game than what WMR is saying, but he does make some valid points. As long as you are prepared to either be A) really lucky against anti-tank weaponery or B) prepared to have a lot of fun, but not win very often. Just my two cents, Servo

03-31-2008	#6 (permalink)
Warmaster Romulas Captain Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: U-S-A!!U-S-A!!U-S-A!!U-S-A!!U-S-A!! Posts: 1,478 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 108 Thanked 75 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Angels Encarmine Armoured Assault always have fun that is my motto thats why i said lucky shots __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ""A true patriot is a lover of his country who rebukes and does not excuse its sins." Frederick Douglass To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. * new items added 4/6/08 * tomb king army up for trade

04-01-2008	#7 (permalink)
Petey1016 Corporal Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 247 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 14 Thanked 13 Times in 5 Posts Blog Entries: 8	Re: Angels Encarmine Armoured Assault Erus you whacked it on the head there i plan to shove enough AV14 at the enemy that they just crumble and panic. The techmarine is there for the "lucky" shots that immobilise or destroy one of my weapons and in the BA codex he is awesome. Artificer, power weapon bolt pistol, grenades all come standard remember. He can hold his own in combat which is useful, the only downside is that he isnt an independant character so he is on his own. Ill probably hide him behind one of the LR's and hope for the best. the general idea is to get out and either charge or rapid fire out of the LR's, the death company will just do err stuff yea stuff and since im using only the free ones i didnt list them as i have spent 0 points on them. The attack bikes will more than likely carry heavy bolters as i willl have 6 lascannons already and the bike squad can give tanks a headache as well. Overall it is designed for forward movement, however this movement needs to be careful as i havn't got enough models on the board to waste a unit. I may replace the plasma gun with the power weapon and flamer while dropping the meltabombs from the other as that suggestion makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks for your replies any other suggestions while keeping at least 2 LR's are welcome -Petey __________________ "Drink Deep of Victory and Remember the Fallen" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Petey1016; 04-01-2008 at 02:33 AM. Reason: finishing the post.

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