DAWN OF WAR II: Winter 07

[Spartan2154]

Its coming!!!!

http://forums.filefront.com/wh40k-do...wn-war-ii.html




there is some controversy behind these next few trailers:


Orks Teaser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RB-aj4E5fY

Space Marines Teaser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-pyjJDbB3k

Also check out the Relic Forums, theres buzz all around the site about this new godsend.

[Ion Raptor]

Until THQ says "yes we are making it" then I'm saying no they are not.

As the Librarian says: "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment"

[Spartan2154]

Agreed, and i have seen on stuff like gamespot that the only definate answer is there are FOR SURE making a 40k RPG, which is kinda lame in my opinion...

[Templar Mikeel]

If that is the new DoW, it would suck, IMO. Only three races? Three that you can already play as!

[Ion Raptor]

It does say later on down there that you can lay waste to the others.....maybe these are just the three campaign races for the game

[Wakim]

And you DO know those are fake, right?

And the guy that made them said they`re fake.

[TheKiller333]

And you DO realise this is all a pack of bull? THQ Hasn't even begun plans for a DoW II; they've been busy with plans for other games. I doubt there will be one. There's no point. They've got all the modders working on campaigns, mods etc for DC, they'll find it pointless to waste money developing a game that's never gonna live up to it's predesecor (Spelling?) cashwise or popularity wise.

[Ion Raptor]

Originally Posted by TheKiller333

They've got all the modders working on campaigns, mods etc for DC.

Eh? what's all this then?

[TheKiller333]

Filefront? There's a HUGE mod database for DoW games? www.dow.filefront.com
And it has, at last check, the biggest fan made database for a game EVER?

[Baron Spikey]

but THQ aren't directing that- its completely fan operated so there nothing stopping THQ actually developing a new and improved DOW (higher squad/vehicle cap please!)

[Spartan2154]

I dont think the trailers are fake, it would take a non-professional a long time to make things like that, and even if he did make fake vids, wats the point? just to get ppl all worked up? theres no motive to why they would be fake.

[Templar Mikeel]

Baron, do you know how extremely easy it would be to mod DC to have higher caps? I'm working on a how to mod DC guide that will be ready next week.

[Baron Spikey]

im not saying it wouldn't be difficult im just saying that would be onr of the things i really want in the eventual DOW sequel.

Spartan2154: its fake regarding its suggestion of DOW:2 but it is the trailer for that WH40k game that came out on the PSP a couple of months back, or so i've been told.

[Ion Raptor]

Originally Posted by TheKiller333

Filefront? There's a HUGE mod database for DoW games? www.dow.filefront.com
And it has, at last check, the biggest fan made database for a game EVER?

the way you worded it made it sound like the developers were working on mods

[masterofweirdness]

Do not kid yourself, Relic will make DOW 2. And in fact, I bet they have been making it since DOW was a huge hit. I mean, WOW was first concieved in 1998, Starcraft II was started in 2003... it takes a long time to make these games.

However, DOW II will not come out for a while. 09 or 2010 I bet. Right now Relic is working of Company of Heroes.... and they still have to do an quite a few armies before the fans will be happy...

However, all these movies and stuff... they are FAKE. How do I know, even though I have not watched them? If they were real... Relic would TELL US, THQ would TELL US. DOW was one of the best RTS games EVER, it is up there with Command and Conquer and Warcraft II, IMO, they will TELL US, not just slowly let the word get out...

[Templar Mikeel]

So in DoW2, what would you look forward to most? What would you most want to see in it?

[Ion Raptor]

I'm not sure, DoW actually got everything I can think of correct....the only (HA! only....) thing I want are all of the races, and the 4 forces of Chaos represented differently.

[masterofweirdness]

More units... like plague marines, rubric marines, noise marines, bikers, more daemon types, more aspect warrior types, more ork units, more tau units (I guess... not really sure), INQUISTION! TYRANIDS! DARK ELDAR!

And the improvements they made borrowed from Company of Heroes.

[TheKiller333]

DoW I strayed was very close to losing WH40k-Fan popularity at first, due to it's lack of units for each side. We need to see pretty much every major (And some minor) unit in the game. Techmarines anyone?

[masterofweirdness]

Originally Posted by TheKiller333

DoW I strayed was very close to losing WH40k-Fan popularity at first, due to it's lack of units for each side. We need to see pretty much every major (And some minor) unit in the game. Techmarines anyone?

The thing is, some of these units would be hard to implement in game. For instance, Dreadnoughts are NOT the main tank unit for Space Marines in TT, yet, DOW uses them as the primary tank unit for the Space Marines.

Then they have scouts... using plasma guns... only being in squads of 4... and sucking without plasma guns and inflitrate.

These are all game balance units. Things work differently in TT than they do in the realm of RTS video games. Very differently. Things like combat squads just don't make sense... huge wargear lists with different weapons doing different things but possibly being "equal" is absurd (well, not absurd, but pretty close, eh?).

This is the reason that DOW is very different than TT, very, very different. While this means it may not appeal to dedicated gamers, I think that it does a good job of representing the 40k universe in the realm of RTS video games. Sure, it does some weird things (Dreadnoughts are rare... why do I have 5 in my army?), but more or less, it rocks. Plus, without the whole "40k" thing, it is easily one of the best RTS games I've ever played.

[Baron Spikey]

All of the above plus as i've said a really high squad cap so you can have HUGE armies- i want to see an ork/tyranid horde stretching as far the eye can see with Imperial Guard battle lines with proper artillery sections and loads of ranks of guardsmen- similar to the Total War series where terrain dictates battle even more. And bikers!

EDIT: and how cool would it be to hold fortifications against enemies- recreating Tarsis Ultra* with marines and IG against tyranids (*ultramarine series)

[Spartan2154]

I myself would like to see hero units incorporated from the fluff. Like for chaos, Kharn the betrayer, for the Space Marines, Captain lysander....you get the idea... that would be sweet.

of course heroes would be extremely powerful, but they could do something like make them avaiable for a time limit, like for a "turn of the tide situation"

[Torquemada Coteaz]

Trying not to get my hopes up, but i hope Relic is still making this, and i hope there will be lots and lots more innovation, like when the last DoW came out it was like "OMG INNOVATIONS GALORE"

still, it feels kinda wrong. like milking the series way too much

[masterofweirdness]

Originally Posted by Torquemada Coteaz

Trying not to get my hopes up, but i hope Relic is still making this, and i hope there will be lots and lots more innovation, like when the last DoW came out it was like "OMG INNOVATIONS GALORE"

still, it feels kinda wrong. like milking the series way too much

Like I said... Relic WILL make DOW 2, heck, I bet they ARE making DOW 2.

World of Warcraft's development began in 1998... it was relased in 2004 (7 years later!) Starcraft II's development began in 2003... it will hopefully be released Winter of 09 (again... 7 years!).

DOW will come... it'll just take many many years.