DOW Vs StarCraft

[Luisjoey]

Well i know there is like 10 years of difference, but respectively to their eras, which is better? which one marked best the future alien warfare?

Star Craft
- Introduced 3 races; humans (as space marines), Zerg (the nasty swarm ones) and the Protos (the Psy-hippies ones);
- air units and mobile buildings
- many troop upgrades

Dawn of War
- Introduced the control over area for resources
- good action between enemies and finish him! attacks
- good squad movement, you select a unit
- Different equipment for troops
- Advantage of the enviroment and terrain


which marked difference for you in Video warfare?

[TheKiller333]

Sorry to say, but it is a pointless question. StarCraft was 10 years before, so it all depends on your age and which you've ever actually played. The majority of people here will have played DoW, but not StarCraft. And furthermore they just can't be compared anyway. DoW has a different engine, system, graphics from StarCraft, and so it's extremely hard to compare them well.

Still, if i had to say one, it'd be StarCraft. It revolutionised the RTS genre by introducing more than 2 races effectively with varying units, rather than the AoE style of the same units just looking different. The upgrades, the story, of all it are good. At the multiplayer is top notch (Something which can't be said about DoW unless you know alot of people that will play it with you.) The variety of maps and types of maps makes it the perfect MPRTS.

'nuff said?

[Wakim]

Pointless for me too since they didn`t bring that much to me

Played 5-6 RTS games before SC and 50-60 before DoW

All they brought to me is the looks and the story and in that respective, Starcraft has better story telling whereas DoW has a better story

[Gregor Xenos]

Personally, Starcraft kicks the crap outa DOW.... I still play the old SC..... but chris, comparing Blizzard to Relic is like comparing Eu de Touilet to EWWW the Toilet.

[TheKiller333]

Rofl, Blizzard just owns Relic in all ;_;

[Ikarus]

Starcraft -


Still heavily supported to this day.

Korea - Game Industry puts millions into tournaments, it is a career.

Thus - Blizzard updates and patches it, and etc.

It is in almost all Pro Gaming tournaments when an RTS game is needed.


It is very balanced, and requires true micro management



DoW is nice, but... just something about it just lacking.

[Dan296]

ok, starcraft is responsible for bringing me into warhammer. i played WFB a little, but wasnt really into it. my brother showed me tyranids and marines, and i thought "dude its zerg and terrans!"
except nids were here first
but yea you cant really compare them for reasons stated above.
(starcraft pwns)

and when starcraft TWO comes out....forget DoW!! i <3 blizzard

[TheKiller333]

Same, i found StarCraft, i found WH40k.

[Four20edLogan]

I love both games, have been playing starcraft for who know how many years, but dawn of war was better in my opinion.

[NearSightedFarseer]

Starcraft really snagged me, the story and variety of units are still ace. DOW is a great game, but it lacks that certain something that starcraft has.

[Luisjoey]

Well... for now the poll is pretty close with one diference vote for Star Craft.

I know that both games rocks!

But for example... i played starcraft in their time and it was amazing to have 3 races and the story of the game and the many options.

and also i played DOW in its moment when first release and i still playing! i love the engine and the style of game as conquering points and the resource management. Also like the fights and it makes me enter WH40k!

I still love starcraft it has it era! now the SC 2 is comming and i thing that it must be at least like DOW to be a good game, and no a building fighting (you know that old trick of placing the barracks close your enemy Hq)

[TheKiller333]

The problem is DoW is NOT what StarCraft is! StarCraft was a beautiful game, it just had something about it that made it brilliant. DoW doesn't have it, it is just lacking the proper feel..

[Wakim]

STARCRAFT had really nice (not detailed, NICE, there`s humongos difference) ingame graphics, a detailed and living menu, AND GREAT SOUND, every little button bliped in a nice way post game stats added up like in the older games, all the units and buildings in the game sounded good, weapon fire sounded great, so on and so forth

Oh, and cinematics, lots of cinematics

The story wan`t the big inpact, the way the story was delivered made the game a masterpiece

another thing, ingame, beyond the looks and feels, monstly everything could damage everything, never giving you the feeling of uselessness you get in other games that go for a more 'realistic' dmg/armor ratio

I for one was never impressed with SC as an RTS (yeah, i expected tanks to be tanks not paper cups and so on, oh, yeah, for some reason, i expected groups to follow simple instructions) but as a game i thought it was the best thing i ever played back then

Couldn`t get enough of it but i`d still go back to not-so-nice-but-much-more-rts-ish-games when i needed to satisfy my rts needs

[Battle-Ranch]

Starcraft was great because it was easy. No matter what level of play your at you can still be challenged. As a new player i had problems Fighting the Computers and finishing the single play, but as time went on i got better and got reqarded by beating real people over Bnet.

Starcraft in my opinon is the greatest RTS ever made, Starcraft II will rock my socks just like Diablo II did.

DOW still fun though

[TheKiller333]

How come the majority of people agree with me on the StarCraft thing yet votes for DoW? -.-
EDIT: To please Wakim, I've changed the everyone. Be happy.

[Wakim]

Killer, stop using 'everyone' say 'most' or actually 'some'.

I don`t agree with you :P

And i voted 'something else' because neither of them changed anything for me i was already heavy into RTS games WAY before SC

If anything, SC only made me hate game developers more and more. I`ll tell you why in a loger post (if you can`t figure it out yourself)

When I found DoW i was already accepting the fact that people don`t want to make better games So i really enjoyed DoW for the little things and the gameplay. It like Z and GC... but different, in a way i liked it. Oh, and you don`t have to worry about button mashing like you have to in so many other games.

But still, the RTS that changed gaming for me must`ve been that game i got my hands on that was still in alpha or beta... can`t remember what it was, can`t even remember how it worked i just remember the last mision playable.

You, the little rebel insigator + small rebel force vs One Imperial Legion (10k > 0.1k) Have fun

[TheKiller333]

Easy, tactically, move around the main force and take out supplies.
But hang on.. this is an RTS Killer... =p

[Luisjoey]

DOW is winning the Poll XD

I think that is logical because most people here understand what is WH40k and have a point of comparison... but if you place this in a Video gammers forum the people would choose most star craft.

But as whole view, comparing both to their game eras DOW is very awsome!

Star craft was very famous, but many games did the same effort even before... like Warwind (somebody played it=? )

[TheKiller333]

Dude, you've totally missed the entire point of our arguments that StarCraft was a much stronger game, and DoW was lacking something. And there are millions of RTSs out there that came out at the same time as DoW that were A LOT better.

[Wakim]

Who decides which is the better game?

And please do show me all those millions of rts games that came around the same time as DoW but were better

It`d like to add them to my evergrowing collection.

[Luisjoey]

Originally Posted by TheKiller333

And there are millions of RTSs out there that came out at the same time as DoW that were A LOT better.

Please some examples?

[Torquemada Coteaz]

DoW
Because Starcraft is a ripoff of 40k (originally INTENDED to BE 40k, but due to GW's disagreement for licensing, failed, just like the Warcraft series, and thus recreated as a ripoff series), DoW IS 40k.
And because Blizz Fans tend to try and believe otherwise.

[Wakim]

Um, no

At least, not from what i heared back in the days.

Warcraft, YES, it was supposed to be warHAMMER but GW noticed the differences between what blizz promised and what it made and decided to pull back (biggest mistake ever, they would have sold tens of milions of minis alowing them to sell them cheaper by now) but blizz didn`t want to give up on the project so they dubbed hammer into craft and launched a new game

All future similarities are just because Blizzard knows how to take inspiration from high quality stuff

The only time they screwed up and DIRECLY copied something (other than green orcs and such) was in Warcraft 3 when multiple units had the exact name (and roll) as some from TT

Other than that little incident, they made sure to scramble the details so nothing`s a complete rip-off

They make great games though

Anoying games but with great looks and sound making them 'feel' lovely.

If you have any proof to sustain taht GW actually took the decision to work with Blizz after the Warcraft 1 incident, please, share it