Inquisition book

[Perturabo]

Looks like a bit of a source book for names and fluff etc for all you Ordo nuts!

The Inquisition

[Icarus Athrasuriel]

Woohoo, fluff!

[Perturabo]

Indeed-just pre-ordered my copy!

Hopefully as fluffy as a well fabric conditioned sheep in a tumble dryer during an electrical storm!

Damn you, another book to buy!

[Icarus Athrasuriel]

But...it be a gooood book.

[millest]

recieved my copy this morning.
basically its just a glossary of names and terms used. some nice artwork but lots of pointless and in some cases very badly thought out descriptions.
however at the same time it is a very good source for most people wanting some background in to specific areas or catagories of the inquisition
millest

[precinctomega]

It's a pile of stinking doo-doo.

Okay, maybe that's a wee bit harsh. But if you're a proper Inquisition fan (and you kind of have to be to buy this book) then you'll already own all of the sources from which it takes 99.5% of its information.

The only things of particular interest are the clarification of the distinction between black ships and Black Ships and the Psychic Mastery scale, both of which are dealt with in the Dark Heresy rulebook (allegedly) - with psychic power covered in considerably more detail, too.

Do not waste your pennies unless you are an obsessive completist. The new art isn't worth it, either. It'll be on Andrea's deviantart account before long.

R.

[Lord Commander Erus]

Originally Posted by precinctomega

It's a pile of stinking doo-doo.

Okay, maybe that's a wee bit harsh. But if you're a proper Inquisition fan (and you kind of have to be to buy this book) then you'll already own all of the sources from which it takes 99.5% of its information.

The only things of particular interest are the clarification of the distinction between black ships and Black Ships and the Psychic Mastery scale, both of which are dealt with in the Dark Heresy rulebook (allegedly) - with psychic power covered in considerably more detail, too.

Do not waste your pennies unless you are an obsessive completist. The new art isn't worth it, either. It'll be on Andrea's deviantart account before long.

R.

Do you like anything that you don't come up with yourself?

[Dan296]

erus: eh?

precin: Psychic Mastery scale? is that like alphas are the most powerful, stuff like that? what is this...

[Lord Commander Erus]

Originally Posted by Dan296

erus: eh?

precin: Psychic Mastery scale? is that like alphas are the most powerful, stuff like that? what is this...

Dan: Just poking fun at PO. The psychic mastery scale, to my knowledge, should indeed be what you describe.

[precinctomega]

I think there might've been a missing smiley in that post, eh, Erus?

The Psychic Mastery scale sets out the fact that it covers the normal human range from Pariah all the way up to Alpha and a secondary "plus" range that runs from "Alpha +" backwards to "Omega +", but hypothesizes, interestingly, that a being of (I think it was) Delta + or higher is likely to take on the form of pure psychic energy.

Anyway, it was interesting, if not terribly helpful.

R.

[lord marcus]

damn! i can't wait, and yet i have to much imperial navy stuff to order...grrrr

[experiment 626]

Originally Posted by precinctomega

Anyway, it was interesting, if not terribly helpful.

R.

sometimes those sourse books are a nice find even if you have all the orignal material in the other various books!
it's simply nice to able to read one book instead of looking at a massive stack! (kinda like how the chapter approved annual were hardly more than a $40 excuse to not have to cart a whole year's worth of white dwarfs around to every tournament!)

cheers!

[Lord Commander Erus]

I have most of the source materials for this book in one form or another, but will be buying it for the reason you stated Stitch. Just a convienience.

[Heroka Vendile]

Originally Posted by experiment 626

kinda like how the chapter approved annual were hardly more than a $40 excuse to not have to cart a whole year's worth of white dwarfs around to every tournament!

of course, that would have depended on just how many of those rules you actually needed, I'm sure that in a lot of cases the sole relevant WD issue would be more convenient.

[Lord Commander Erus]

Originally Posted by Heroka Vendile

of course, that would have depended on just how many of those rules you actually needed, I'm sure that in a lot of cases the sole relevant WD issue would be more convenient.

Can you not argue, for once? Someone came up with a point. It was valid. And no, in stitch's and mines case, I doubt the 'sole relevant issue' would be more than convenient.

One, the WDs tend to be paper back, and rather shoddily made and flimsy and you have to treat them like glass to keep them in good condition. Two, most things like a chapter approved, etc.. Are thicker covers, stronger binding, etc.. Even if one sole WD could fit the bill, i'd go w/ the Chapter Approved due to the fact it wouldn't fall apart in a years time.

[experiment 626]

Originally Posted by Heroka Vendile

of course, that would have depended on just how many of those rules you actually needed, I'm sure that in a lot of cases the sole relevant WD issue would be more convenient.

at a tournament, it's handy to have all the rules updates to hand because your opponent/s might not have seen certain 'amendments' or rules changes and thus, they'll be doing things they shouldn't...

some tournaments might also allow certain 'trial rules' to be used, thus everyone needs access to them! (such as astronomi-con 2003 using both the 'trial vehicle & trial assault' rules!)

cheers!

[Heroka Vendile]

Originally Posted by Lord Commander Erus

Can you not argue, for once?

It's not an argument, it's a relevant point being made in a reasoned discussion. Honest.

One, the WDs tend to be paper back, and rather shoddily made and flimsy and you have to treat them like glass to keep them in good condition. Two, most things like a chapter approved, etc.. Are thicker covers, stronger binding, etc.

Originally Posted by experiment 626

at a tournament, it's handy to have all the rules updates to hand because your opponent/s might not have seen certain 'amendments' or rules changes and thus, they'll be doing things they shouldn't...

And thus you both make convincing counter-points that prove the validity of your views.


Although as a wee aside I would say that perfect-bound (the name for the binding method on WDs for many years) is the best method available for creating semi-rigid spinned magazines.

[experiment 626]

Originally Posted by Heroka Vendile

Although as a wee aside I would say that perfect-bound (the name for the binding method on WDs for many years) is the best method available for creating semi-rigid spinned magazines.

it seems that all the crappy copies where the binding process failed misserably get sent to the far north however...
i can read a dwarf about 3 times before it falls apart!>.<

so those source books are also a much better quality product for me on top of the convenience factor! (and that 40k hardback rulebook also means i don't want carry more than 2 other books in my backpack as well!)

cheers!

[precinctomega]

My main objection to "The Inquisition" isn't that it isn't a handy summary of a portion (although far from all) the published material concerning the Inquisition, but that it fails to do what it says on the tin.

"An illustrated guide to the Imperium's most secretive organization" my hairy backside. It's "an illustrated guide to the works of Dan Abnett with a few bits of Gav Thorpe and Andy Hall thrown in to keep the wargamers happy".

Even that, I could forgive. But I see it as the biggest missed opportunity the Black Library has ever achieved. A genuine "guide to the Inquisition", covering its known history, key events, internal structure, methodology, factions and politics could have been a tour de force to rival "Xenology".

Instead it was lazy, recycled trivia. It was the Black Library making a fast buck without the inconvenience of having to pay an author or do more than commission a handful of new artworks.

R.

[Drax]

i would agree with the above actually, i had expected much more tbh, and whilst i do find what i did end up with useful to an extent, i think the idea of a xenology style look at the various organisations and structures within the =][= would have been far more interesting, and frankly useful.

what there is known of the =][= is so vastly contradictory at times following GW's attempt to standardise it from the days of Jaq Draco's first outing to now, that a decent look at structure is well overdue