so i'm a little rusty...

[r4wr89]

to add an inquisitor to an existing army, where/what page do i find the rules for that ?

hm...i'm considering adding an inquisitor to my space marine forces (or maybe deathwatch, we'll see :])

and i'm considering this: [you might recognise this, it's on USGW site]

inquisitor, psycannon & close combat weapon

3 sages, a mystic, and 3 IG vets with plasmaguns, 1 gun-servitor with plasmacannon

total: 147 points [cheap for 5 awesome guns...yet so expensive for 9 bodies !]

but i'm wondering, if you can just tell me witha yes or no, if it is at all legal for me to incorporate this into my space marine army.. :]

and now to think of fluff that will allow me to use an inquisitor with a space marine army that has chaos marine models in it! haha
-ant

[Ikarus]

DH - Daemon Hunter Inquisitor
(tooled against chaos/daemon)

Check DH codex

WH - Witch Hunter Inquisitor
(tooled against psykers)

Check WH codex


So yeah.. you have to buy the codex to use the rules I suppose.. worth it to you?

[r4wr89]

Originally Posted by Ikarus

DH - Daemon Hunter Inquisitor
(tooled against chaos/daemon)

Check DH codex

WH - Witch Hunter Inquisitor
(tooled against psykers)

Check WH codex


So yeah.. you have to buy the codex to use the rules I suppose.. worth it to you?

eh...maybe i'll just look at a copy at a store or something, note what i might need...thanks though :]
-ant

[experiment 626]

greetings fellow inquisitor!

as pointed out, you need to decide which ordo you will follow - though if you really want the psycannon then you'll need a daemonhunter inquisitor
generally speaking daemonhunters are more outright offensive in their play style while witch hunters are more subtle and have lots of anti-psyker gear and psychological tricks to play on enemies!

the rules for incorperating inquisitor units into your marine/guard army is found on;
codex daemonhunters - pg21 (grey box)
codex witch hunters - pg25 (grey box)

as to your planned retinue, it's slightly illegal as you have too many "warrior class" henchmen... each 'type' of henchman is limited to 0-3 total and things like servitors, vet guardsmen and/or crusaders all fall into the 'warrior class'!
not a huge mistake though and one that's easy to fix

hope this helps,
cheers!

[r4wr89]

Originally Posted by experiment 626

greetings fellow inquisitor!

as pointed out, you need to decide which ordo you will follow - though if you really want the psycannon then you'll need a daemonhunter inquisitor
generally speaking daemonhunters are more outright offensive in their play style while witch hunters are more subtle and have lots of anti-psyker gear and psychological tricks to play on enemies!

the rules for incorperating inquisitor units into your marine/guard army is found on;
codex daemonhunters - pg21 (grey box)
codex witch hunters - pg25 (grey box)

as to your planned retinue, it's slightly illegal as you have too many "warrior class" henchmen... each 'type' of henchman is limited to 0-3 total and things like servitors, vet guardsmen and/or crusaders all fall into the 'warrior class'!
not a huge mistake though and one that's easy to fix

hope this helps,
cheers!

aha! that must have been why it was waaay over 146 points: i probably misread. thanks for the input though :]


yea i think i'll stick with the daemonhunters inquisitor, that psycannon is just too cool..haha
oh yea...so i'm not too claer on this: you are allowed a certain number of each choice from an allied DH FOC [ie 1 HQ, i elite, 2 troops, etc.] and those count as normal troops choices in your "mother"/"main" FOC right ?

so if i were to take an inquisitor, he would fill my allied DH elites choice as well as an elites choice on my space marine list ? yes? no ? thanks :]

-ant

[Guard Master]

so if i were to take an inquisitor, he would fill my allied DH elites choice as well as an elites choice on my space marine list ? yes? no ? thanks :]

Yes he would count as the one Deamonhunter elite you can include as well as taking up an elite force org slot (however in this case he would need to be an HQ Inquisitor Lord as normal inquisitors can only have up too 6 henchmen)

[Inquisitor Rosenadel]

Originally Posted by Guard Master

Yes he would count as the one Deamonhunter elite you can include as well as taking up an elite force org slot (however in this case he would need to be an HQ Inquisitor Lord as normal inquisitors can only have up too 6 henchmen)

What allies does is basically add another choice to your HQ, Elites, Troops, and Fast Attack choices. Think if it as "0-1 Daemonhunters HQ", in addition to the choices of Commander, Chaplain, and Librarian, with a Daemonhunters HQ being an Inquisitor Lord OR a Grey Knight Hero (which cannot be the compulsory choices, and neither can the troops), and so forth.

Did I just make it more complicated?

[r4wr89]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor Rosenadel

What allies does is basically add another choice to your HQ, Elites, Troops, and Fast Attack choices. Think if it as "0-1 Daemonhunters HQ", in addition to the choices of Commander, Chaplain, and Librarian, with a Daemonhunters HQ being an Inquisitor Lord OR a Grey Knight Hero (which cannot be the compulsory choices, and neither can the troops), and so forth.

Did I just make it more complicated?

lol possibly...haha it's okay.

but somebody before you just said that they would take up my space marines FOC space as well as the space it takes up in the allies list, so i'm a little confused as to how that all works out... : /

one question though, what do you mean by "which cannot be the compulsory choices, and neither can the troops" ?

:]
thanks!
-ant

[Inquisitor Rosenadel]

Ok, so, here's the deal. When it says you can have 0-1 Daemonhunters HQ, that means that you may choose one HQ from the Daemonhunters list instead of the Space Marines list. It takes options and equipment from the Daemonhunters Codex only.

I think what's confusing is the notion of a seperate Daemonhunters mini-FOC added onto the normal Space Marine one (i.e. and extra HQ, Elite, Fast Attack, and two extra troops). This is a misconception. By choosing a Daemonhunters HQ, you forego another Space Marine HQ. By compulsory, I mena the required 1 HQ choice all games have. For example, you cannot have a Space Marine force where the only HQ choice is an Inquisitor. There must be a Space Marine HQ, and two Space Marine troops in your army before you can start putting in Allies.

Make more sense?

[r4wr89]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor Rosenadel

Ok, so, here's the deal. When it says you can have 0-1 Daemonhunters HQ, that means that you may choose one HQ from the Daemonhunters list instead of the Space Marines list. It takes options and equipment from the Daemonhunters Codex only.

I think what's confusing is the notion of a seperate Daemonhunters mini-FOC added onto the normal Space Marine one (i.e. and extra HQ, Elite, Fast Attack, and two extra troops). This is a misconception. By choosing a Daemonhunters HQ, you forego another Space Marine HQ. By compulsory, I mena the required 1 HQ choice all games have. For example, you cannot have a Space Marine force where the only HQ choice is an Inquisitor. There must be a Space Marine HQ, and two Space Marine troops in your army before you can start putting in Allies.

Make more sense?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH much more sense...awesome thanks :]

haha
-ant

[experiment 626]

basically keep in mind too, if you ever want to have an assassin (of any type!) in your space marine army, then you *must* take an inquisitor lord as your allied hq as the assassin takes up the 0-1 allied elites choice (and you *must* include and inquisitor in order to take the assassin/s)

so in order to include an assassin, (and why not? they're freakin' cool!) your marine army would look like;
HQ: 1 space marine hero (chapy/libby/captain)
inquisitor lord + retinue (remember, he's got a manditory retinue!)
ELITES: 0-2 space marine elites
1 temple assassin *or* 1-3 deathcults
TROOPS: 2+ space marine troops choices
(may include 0-2 inq troops)
FAST ATTACK: 0-3 space marine choices
(and/or may include 0-1 inq unit)
HEAVY SUPPORT: 0-3 space marine choices
(may *never* include allied heavy support!)

basically once you have your manditory 1 hq & 2 troops from your parent list (ie; space marines!) then you can spend as many pts as you want on allied inquisition units provided you don't exceed the total number of allowed allied units
also keep in mind that you can include allied special characters, but any requirements (such as a minimum pts worth of their ordo's forces!) *must* come from the allies *only*!!! (so, for example, you could include brother captain stern as an allied daemonhunter hq choice, but you would need at least 1500pts worth of allied daemonhunters in order to take him!)

hopefully you're head isn't hurting yet!

cheers!

[r4wr89]

haha it doesn't hurt too much :] but yea it makes a lot more sense to me now thanks to you all. i think for now i'll stick to a low number of DH for my army: an inquisitor + the retinue i listed above [minus the extra warrior-oops!] and maybe a squad or two of storm troopers, as i'm looking into starting IG after i hit around 2000 points of space marines...as it is i think i'm a little over 1000 so it won't be for a little while


but yea thanks for everything! i'll post a list and maybe pictures when i get around to it

-ant