What does the Deathwatch actually do? - 40K Terra

kenshin620 · 01-04-2008

I know who they are but what do they do for the inquisition?

Brother Warchild · 01-04-2008

Have you read the DeathWatch books?

kenshin620 · 01-04-2008

Nope, never seen any at my local book store

Brother Warchild · 01-04-2008

There's 2 out When i get home i will send you the names.If you like reading 40k books they are pretty good.
As 4 what they do,Pretty much they are like a elite kill team,they do the stuff that the Inq doesn't want other's to know about and missions that need a strong Force without being to big.
I think i said that right

masterofweirdness · 01-04-2008

The deathwatch works in super elite kill teams. They are lead by Inquistors, Brother Captains or Libarians. They are equipped with special bolter rounds and bolter variants. They do things like assassinate Ork Warlords, stopping WAAGHS! before they really begin. They inflitrate Tau ships, kill the leaders and steal tech for research. Anything elite, commandoish, and very dangerous which involves Xenos' they can and will do.

r4wr89 · 01-04-2008

righto..i think they are also the official military arm of the ordo xenos ? ie they kill aliens. lots and lots of aliens :]
-ant

Brother Warchild · 01-04-2008

Warrior Brood and Warrior Coven.There pretty good books you should read them.

kenshin620 · 01-04-2008

Ah, so Grey Knights kill daemons, Sisters of Battle kill psykers, and Deathwatch kill teams kill xenos

experiment 626 · 01-08-2008

"Do not ask 'why kill the alien?' Rather ask 'why not?!'
- Battle-Brother Artimis of the Deathwatch

cheers!

Lord Commander Erus · 01-08-2008

They also have some rather tasty bolter bits!

experiment 626 · 01-08-2008

kraken bolts are plain nasty, while inferno bolts are great for those of us who lack any form of luck with dice!

cheers!

Lord Commander Erus · 01-08-2008

I was speaking of the actual bits.. But yes... They are quite tasty rules wise too!

Off Topic.. But how much/would I catch any flak for using Death Watch bolters on my tactical marines? I love the look of them much more then regular bolters, and the Sentarus homeworld for the Black Saints was known for, before the Chapter founding, an incredibly advanced arms manufactorum and such. Close ties with the Ad Mech, etc... So I wanted all their stuff to be all fanciful.

Ides · 01-10-2008

I wouldn't say you'd catch much flak at all really. I've seen plenty of bolter coversions around using scopes and so forth. You should be fine. For continuity, you could always restrict them to chapter vets and sergeants.

Icarus Athrasuriel · 01-10-2008

The Deathwatch are an elite branch of the Inquisition's Ordo Xenos. Made up of Space Marines drawn from many, many Chapters, the Deathwatch are used only for the most dangerous missions, participate in only the most horrific wars and battle only the deadliest of the Xenos.

A good idea would be to read books with the Deathwatch in them (Though avoid C.S. Goto!)

Lord_Tyrion · 01-10-2008

GW Online : Download Agreement

Rules and a little bit of background

Brother Warchild · 01-10-2008

Nice find.Though i do agree with reading the books.Why dont you like Goto?

Stubber · 01-10-2008

Compared to most other Black Library authors...Goto is plain useless...

Brother Warchild · 01-10-2008

I dont like him either.Was just wondering what opinions everyone had about his work.

Captain Slow · 01-10-2008

Probobly just reinforceing whats been said so far but.
DEATHWATCH.
drawn from various chapter that sumbit themselves to a commity. the recurits drawn from those chapter are quickly taught the meaning of a hard time. the deathwatch do not perform suicide missions. however the missions they do execute are almsot that. in serveral books, warrior coven, and the graphic novel deathwatch (awesome book) the idea that they perform the task that not even a normal space marine chapter is asked to perform is reinforced in these books/graphic novels. as well as the fact that, whiole space marines, not all of them come back alive. thier term of service is not a set thing merly the amount of missons they must perfrom. i dont know quite how it is judged, however in various fluff ive read thsoe that do come back alive, have completed 2 maybe missions with any one Deathwatch captain/Team leader.

the idea that they simply fight the Tyrandis is a flawed one. while in many popualr pices of fluff they are deoitced or described as battleing tyranids, it is described in thier GW fluff as, they are the last line of defence against Xenos. so, while not mentioned, they no doubt battle a myriad of other alien races. TAU and Orks foremost amoung them. espically tau, sneaky gits...ahem.

as for game terms the deathwatch are very nasty. theres tacticus such as simply fielding a whole squad of them, just with heavy bolters and suspensors and trgeting things like power armoured nobs, and carnifexs, as thier hellfire rounds cause a Small blast that auto wounds on a +2 something ive used against a hore of death guard terminators, they were cut down in droves.
as for the rest of the upgrades, normal SM's are not invicble, and do make great close combat attackers, even with thier normal boltguns, however the pissiblity to outfit an entire deathwatch squad with veterans and power weapons and then to top it off a librian, while expensive, in large games, and in APOC sized games makes for a very powerfull shock troop unit. all in all, the rules do reflect the true nature of Deathwatch in comparsion to normal SM's.

anyway, hope that helps.

(on a side note, after RE-reading Deathwatch so i could accurately portray the DW in this post, im tempted to do a squad based on the DW in the Graphic novel Deathwatch. well, after the first of my fists are out the way at any case. ^^ )

Brother Warchild · 01-10-2008

I really like the models.they are great to paint

masterofweirdness · 01-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Brother Warchild

I dont like him either.Was just wondering what opinions everyone had about his work.

What people generally get on him seem to be his utter lack of knowledge about the fluff... but Dan Abnett does that too... so who's counting?

Also, he doesn't seem to be the best author in the world... but people rarely seem to mention that... they just mention multilaser weilding space marines... (why this is an issue, I don't really know, nor do I care).

Stubber · 01-10-2008

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Originally Posted by masterofweirdness

Also, he doesn't seem to be the best author in the world... but people rarely seem to mention that... they just mention multilaser weilding space marines... (why this is an issue, I don't really know, nor do I care).

I remember one battle scene where a single terminator sergent has an assault cannon, storm bolter, missile launcher, flamer, power fist, power claw and a power sword. I can live with characters having the wrong wargear but this was just ridiculous. Human anatomy makes carring all this stuff impossible.

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Originally Posted by Brother Warchild

I really like the models.they are great to paint

Aren't they just normal marines with nice shoulder pads and bolters?

Ides · 01-10-2008

yup, that they are.

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kenshin620 Corporal Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 452 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 9 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Nope, never seen any at my local book store __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Tis but a flesh wound.

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Brother Warchild Grandpa Nurgle Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fenris-AKA-Olympia Washington Posts: 1,600 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 365 Thanked 126 Times in 107 Posts	There's 2 out When i get home i will send you the names.If you like reading 40k books they are pretty good. As 4 what they do,Pretty much they are like a elite kill team,they do the stuff that the Inq doesn't want other's to know about and missions that need a strong Force without being to big. I think i said that right __________________ Support your fellow Terrans VOTE ON To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Games ( LINK ) My Stuff ( links ) To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. MY Trade Stuff @ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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r4wr89 The Emperor's Mercy Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pelossus Alida Posts: 1,783 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 261 Thanked 64 Times in 56 Posts	righto..i think they are also the official military arm of the ordo xenos ? ie they kill aliens. lots and lots of aliens :] -ant __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. SHOWBREAD. ANOREXIA/NERVOSA. MAY THIRTEENTH TWO THOUSAND EIGHT.

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Brother Warchild Grandpa Nurgle Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fenris-AKA-Olympia Washington Posts: 1,600 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 365 Thanked 126 Times in 107 Posts	Warrior Brood and Warrior Coven.There pretty good books you should read them. __________________ Support your fellow Terrans VOTE ON To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Games ( LINK ) My Stuff ( links ) To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. MY Trade Stuff @ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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kenshin620 Corporal Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 452 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 9 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Ah, so Grey Knights kill daemons, Sisters of Battle kill psykers, and Deathwatch kill teams kill xenos __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Tis but a flesh wound.

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Lord Commander Erus Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,324 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 172 Thanked 316 Times in 217 Posts Blog Entries: 3	They also have some rather tasty bolter bits!

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experiment 626 Filthy, Dirty Radical Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: lost in a blizzard, somewhere near toronto! Posts: 2,731 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 20 Thanked 188 Times in 139 Posts	kraken bolts are plain nasty, while inferno bolts are great for those of us who lack any form of luck with dice! cheers! __________________ "Who are you to question my methods?! A 'Puritan' is simply a coward who hides behind a veil of pretended faith and denounces his loyal brother as a traitor out of simple jealousy!" - Inquisitor Odion To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Lord Commander Erus Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,324 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 172 Thanked 316 Times in 217 Posts Blog Entries: 3	I was speaking of the actual bits.. But yes... They are quite tasty rules wise too! Off Topic.. But how much/would I catch any flak for using Death Watch bolters on my tactical marines? I love the look of them much more then regular bolters, and the Sentarus homeworld for the Black Saints was known for, before the Chapter founding, an incredibly advanced arms manufactorum and such. Close ties with the Ad Mech, etc... So I wanted all their stuff to be all fanciful.

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Ides Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,067 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 17 Thanked 37 Times in 36 Posts Blog Entries: 4	I wouldn't say you'd catch much flak at all really. I've seen plenty of bolter coversions around using scopes and so forth. You should be fine. For continuity, you could always restrict them to chapter vets and sergeants. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. The opinions posted above are solely the property of the Ides account and are in no way representative of those views held by the staff of this forum. "I'd consider him dangerous...he's too hairy not to be." Phil Ken Sebben For sale: One soul. Mint Condition, never been used.

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Brother Warchild Grandpa Nurgle Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fenris-AKA-Olympia Washington Posts: 1,600 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 365 Thanked 126 Times in 107 Posts	Nice find.Though i do agree with reading the books.Why dont you like Goto? __________________ Support your fellow Terrans VOTE ON To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Games ( LINK ) My Stuff ( links ) To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. MY Trade Stuff @ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Brother Warchild Grandpa Nurgle Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fenris-AKA-Olympia Washington Posts: 1,600 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 365 Thanked 126 Times in 107 Posts	I dont like him either.Was just wondering what opinions everyone had about his work. __________________ Support your fellow Terrans VOTE ON To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Games ( LINK ) My Stuff ( links ) To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. MY Trade Stuff @ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Captain Slow Corporal Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: THE MOON!!! no seriously. Posts: 361 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 10 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Probobly just reinforceing whats been said so far but. DEATHWATCH. drawn from various chapter that sumbit themselves to a commity. the recurits drawn from those chapter are quickly taught the meaning of a hard time. the deathwatch do not perform suicide missions. however the missions they do execute are almsot that. in serveral books, warrior coven, and the graphic novel deathwatch (awesome book) the idea that they perform the task that not even a normal space marine chapter is asked to perform is reinforced in these books/graphic novels. as well as the fact that, whiole space marines, not all of them come back alive. thier term of service is not a set thing merly the amount of missons they must perfrom. i dont know quite how it is judged, however in various fluff ive read thsoe that do come back alive, have completed 2 maybe missions with any one Deathwatch captain/Team leader. the idea that they simply fight the Tyrandis is a flawed one. while in many popualr pices of fluff they are deoitced or described as battleing tyranids, it is described in thier GW fluff as, they are the last line of defence against Xenos. so, while not mentioned, they no doubt battle a myriad of other alien races. TAU and Orks foremost amoung them. espically tau, sneaky gits...ahem. as for game terms the deathwatch are very nasty. theres tacticus such as simply fielding a whole squad of them, just with heavy bolters and suspensors and trgeting things like power armoured nobs, and carnifexs, as thier hellfire rounds cause a Small blast that auto wounds on a +2 something ive used against a hore of death guard terminators, they were cut down in droves. as for the rest of the upgrades, normal SM's are not invicble, and do make great close combat attackers, even with thier normal boltguns, however the pissiblity to outfit an entire deathwatch squad with veterans and power weapons and then to top it off a librian, while expensive, in large games, and in APOC sized games makes for a very powerfull shock troop unit. all in all, the rules do reflect the true nature of Deathwatch in comparsion to normal SM's. anyway, hope that helps. (on a side note, after RE-reading Deathwatch so i could accurately portray the DW in this post, im tempted to do a squad based on the DW in the Graphic novel Deathwatch. well, after the first of my fists are out the way at any case. ^^ ) __________________ Currently Painting: MORE Red Scorpions currently watching: Iron Man Currently Reading: Dark Apostle Currently Listening to: Reel big Fish: Fsk off. W / L / D 15 26 7 I saw it, it was damn funny: "Have Time, Will Photoshop."Attributed to: The Master Muppet Himself. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Brother Warchild Grandpa Nurgle Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fenris-AKA-Olympia Washington Posts: 1,600 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 365 Thanked 126 Times in 107 Posts	I really like the models.they are great to paint __________________ Support your fellow Terrans VOTE ON To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Games ( LINK ) My Stuff ( links ) To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. MY Trade Stuff @ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Ides Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,067 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 17 Thanked 37 Times in 36 Posts Blog Entries: 4	yup, that they are. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. The opinions posted above are solely the property of the Ides account and are in no way representative of those views held by the staff of this forum. "I'd consider him dangerous...he's too hairy not to be." Phil Ken Sebben For sale: One soul. Mint Condition, never been used.