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Blog Entries: 1 | If you were fighting one Chaos army, I'd give you the nod Romulas. I don't think you'll be able to kill both Chaos forces with shooting before they get close. However, if Wakim and BD ignore you and assault each other, you would have a very good chance. I doubt this would happen, because they both know Tau are weaker in CC, and they most likely pounce on them at the first chance. Wakim knows BD has CC ability, and vice versa. So to up their odds, they would avoid each other, and head straight for you. I think once your powerful ranged units are whittled down, Wakim would turn his termies on BD. Even outnumber, 20 termies are gonna be hard to kill, especially in a melee, which I think this battle would become rather quickly. I'm not saying the Tau couldn't win, just that it is unlikely, especially against 2 good CC opponents.
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Blog Entries: 1 | Numbers...Numbers...Rhinos...Rhinos...Vindicator.. . So far Nurgle doesn't have anything to eliminate my Vindicator from a range greater then its cannon!!!!!!!!!! I'd love to see those bikers charge the vindicator with their 12" meltas and get PIE PLATED!!!! As stated in my tactics I am sending three rhinos into the objective and forming a triangle of artificial cover for the dismounting men to sit in. The S7 AP- hits on anything trying to assault them will screw up any counter assaults to take back the objective AND I've got thirty of my boys in there to slice and dice any stubborn plague marines. The center of the objective is safe from the S7 hits? so I might only dismount one unit if thats all that will fit and then dismount the others as needed. They can chill inside and fire their heavy weapons from the rhinos so...their fine inside. Tau is distracted by my thirty raptors and Nurgle has a fast moving squad of Noise Marines, TWO preds, and a VINDICATOR to keep him busy after the Tau are wiped clean by our combined assault. Who says I won't be a bastard and stab 'im in the back after we bog the Tau down in CC by charging him and Tau indescrinately? Well...Wakim'll do that too so almost everything thats caught in the CC with the Tau will be ripped to shreds...Even the tough termies will die or get bogged down for the remaining Six turns Lets not insult each other boys...Keep this to tactics not personal issues![]() FRIENDLY DEBATE:
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Blog Entries: 1 | He wouldn't have to get within 12" with his Bikes to kill the Vindy. Just 48" to DS his two Reapers in behind it. Blam, dead Vindy. I wouldn't put too much faith in the Vindy this battle, remember, Romulas will be gunning for it too probably. I think your Raptors will do more than the Vindy.
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Blog Entries: 1 | His termies are DS'ing behind the Tau just like my Raptors. My Vindicator gets a nice screen from two preds and four rhinos too...so the tau won't be messing with it either and after a few turns they will have more to worry about anyway. This battle is so TASTY
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| I vote Tau, Nurgle have no chance of holding the objective- they have neither the numbers or the manoeuvrability to accomplish it before the Tau take serious chunks out of their extremely small (though elite) army. BrainDeleted has the best chance of denying the Tau their prize with his manoeuvrability but the amount of Victory points each Raptor squad is worth will send serious Tau fire power winging its way to him and he doesn't even have the survivability of Wakim's troops. The Chaos guys seem to have forgotten the victory conditions- as long as Romulas takes out some of the more expensive units of each opposing army then even if he's wiped out its no guarantee he wouldn't snatch victory through VPs anyway. |
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![]() PS Typhus is pretty much the only thing on the table qualified for taking that central objective :P
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| Lodge Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I really like wakims army but i think i am gonna have to go with the numbers on this one and go with the Brain on this.I feal he has a upper hand with his numbers.I think this battle would have been diffrent if there wasnt 2 chaos army and maybe a marine,chaos,tau or something like that.My Vote goes to BrainDeleted
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| im voting for WAKIM nurgle termi party of doom. with the +T and FnP, and the fact its just common sence for the chaos players to go after the tau big guns with ther deepstrikers then hope they are the least dammaged by the tau befor they have to face eachother, and i belive the Nurglings have a better change of surviving those early burages than the slaneshi.
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30 raptors survive better then a unit of plague marines because...well...you can only shot one of the squads to pieces before the others lock you in CC! ![]() Also...when it comes down to it Romulas's mobility is over rated. Look at the board then fill in where all three armies will be after turn one... He doesn't have many places to run to and still be able to shoot a reasonable amount. Nurgle termies have 4(5)T but not feel no pain (right?)
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| no necessarily THE objective (which only gets you 200 VPs, nice number but your Raptor squads or Wakim's terminator squads will net more) but the Victory CONDITIONS (army with most VPs wins) |
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| I hate being that guy who has to comment on things but after you deepstrike your raptors and terminators in rapid fire range you guys do remember you have to set there and do NOTHING for the rest of that turn? there is a decent chance that those units are gonna be seriously damaged or flat out detsroyed and all those victory points are the tau's.
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Blog Entries: 1 | LOS will limit him to shooting only one or two of my squads and so what? The more fire he doesn't put towards the main body of either chaos army the better. Besides, who is to say his fire warriors are dismounted or with his "Highly Mobile" Strategy he hasn't moved out of rapid fire range and has to choose between taking the long shots or moving? Plus I believe that my troops can shoot on the turn the DS in?
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| negative you must stand and look special while they freak out and shoot you. and why would they move the first two turns when they lob rounds all the way down the field ![]()
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Blog Entries: 1 | They'd move because the warmaster says they will? Thats my best guess
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| what i meant by survivability Wakin is the fact of the high strength weaponry i have
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Blog Entries: 1 | Hmmm. Just noticed something. BD has 2 termies. Raptors cannot use Icons when Deep Striking, whereas Wakim can drop a freakin nasty 22 Terminators near one of his numerous icons. Shooty termies. 2 Reapers. Tons of combi-bolter (I refuse to call it a TL bolter) rounds flying. Even if you kill half, the next turn you have 10 termies bearing down on the Tau and Slaanesh forces.
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Blog Entries: 1 | Hahaha! Its THREE termies. Geez Their mostly a joke, a distraction, a bullet shield. ![]() But they could hurt if they get into combat with Tau or just are ignored and get to unload that reaper and two combi-bolters on what ever they want. Basically it makes someone waste a round of two of shooting. ![]()
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| BD that is a great answer thank you.
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| um dropping them by there icon is great accept for the fact that the table is 10 feet long. d6 your way to the tau. come on, and deep striking them into the tau's deployment may be dangerous considering they might drift onto an enemy unit. and who gurantees that all the terminators come in at the same time if one get's stuck in reserves and only one shows up that is 10 dead terminators.
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Blog Entries: 1 | Notice how every battle I'm in (The other 3 got deleted since they happened last year..in like march) is over 3 pages! WOOT! WOOT! Because I'm naturally argumentative. ![]()
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| and we are so proud. *pinches cheeks*
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Blog Entries: 1 | *Whips out his Arbite shotgun and pumps it menacingly.* Back on topic. ![]()
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| Conscript ![]() | my vote would be for the tau. the mobility in the army negates deep strike as a major problem. the tau player would have to move carefully and force the chaos players to shot each other, well only picking targets of opportunity. Going after the termies or the raptors would be a bad idea, theres not enough weapons in the army list to kill tremies fast and the raptors could negate FoF for the most part. However the marines would pop nicely and its been my experience that you always end up with a tac squad somewhere thats not covered well. however this is going to be a late game victory and the tau would have to take the objective in the 5 or 6 turn, theres noway they could hold it any longer then that. in any case this is would be a close game most likely decided by the objective. |
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| alright gentlemen the current score is 5-nurlge 1-slannesh 3-tau and lots of arguements.
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