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Default APOC Baron VS Spartan

Mission: Apocalypse

Battlefield 8' by 8' Dark gray are roads, black are size 2 area terrain.
Red dots are the objectives. Oval is Barons Rift, Static looking line is Baron's Blind Bombardment.


The Apocalypse Army of Spartan
6000 Pts - Imperial Guard Roster - 41st Steel Legion
HQ:

Command Platoon = 664
Heroic Senior Officer - Carapace Armour1 Macharian Cross, Plasma Pistol, Power Fist
Guardsmen
1 Medic - Carapace Armour, Medi-pack, Laspistol & CCW
1 Standard Bearer - Laspistol & CCW
1 Veteran - Carapace Armour, Bolter
1 Veteran - Carapace Armour, Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
1 Chimera - Heavy Bolter, Hull Heavy Bolter

6 Anti-Tank Squad - Lasguns, Lascannon (x3)

1 Sentinel - Armoured Crew Compartment, Extra Armour, Autocannon (x1)

6 Special Weapon Squad - Lasguns, Sniper Rifle (x3)

1 Priest @ 65 Pts - Eviscerator
1 Sanctioned Psyker - Force Weapon, Laspistol
1 Commissar - Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon

Elite:

Hardened Veterans = 165 Pts
4 Hardened Veterans - Lasgun, Plasmagun (x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant - Carapace Armour; Lasgun
1 Chimera - Multilaser; Hull Heavy Bolter

Hardened Veterans = 161 Pts
4 Hardened Veterans - Shotgun, Meltagun (x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant - Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon
1 Chimera - Multilaser; Hull Heavy Bolter

Storm Troopers = 167 Pts
4 Storm Troopers - Hellgun w/targeted, Grenade Launcher (x2), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Veteran Sergeant - Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Chimera - Multilaser

Storm Troopers = 171 Pts
4 Storm Troopers - Vox Caster, Hellgun w/targeted, Plasma gun (x2), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Veteran Sergeant - Hellpistol, Power Weapon, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Chimera - Heavy Bolter; Hull Heavy Bolter

Storm Troopers = 166 Pts
4 Storm Troopers - Vox Caster, Hellgun w/targeted, Meltagun (x2), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Veteran Sergeant - Hellpistol, Power Weapon, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Chimera - Multilaser


Troops:

Armoured Fist (11#, 166 Pts)
9 Armoured Fist - Vox Caster; Lasgun, Flamer; Autocannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW
1 Chimera - Multilaser


Infantry Platoon #1 = 599 Pts

Command Squad = 137 Pts
1 Junior Officer - Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
3 Guardsmen - Vox Caster; Laspistol & CCW (x3)
1 Veteran
1 Chimera - Camo Netting; Heavy Flamer; Hull Heavy Flamer

9 Infantry Squad = 81 Pts - Lasguns, Flamer, Autocannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 85 Pts - Lasguns, Plasmagun, Missile Launcher
1 Sergeant - laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 78 Pts - Lasguns, Grenade Launcher, Heavy Bolter
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 78 Pts - Lasguns, Grenade Launcher, Heavy Bolter
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 85 Pts - Lasguns, Plasmagun, Autocannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

4 Remnant Squad = 55 Pts - Lasguns, Meltagun, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW, Frag Grenade, Krak Grenade


Infantry Platoon #2 = 493 Pts

Command Squad = 163 Pts

Junior Officer = 45 Pts - Laspistol; Power Weapon
1 Medic - Medi-pack
3Veteran - Bolter
1 Chimera - Camo Netting, Multilaser, Hull Heavy Bolter

1 Commissar = 41 Pts. - Close Combat Weapon; Bolter

9 Infantry Squad = 60 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 60 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 60 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 60 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 60 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

4 Remnant Squad = 30 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

Fast Attack:

Hellhound = 120 Pts - Extra Armour; Inferno Cannon; Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter

Heavy Support:

1 Basilisk = 125 Pts - Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

1 Basilisk = 125 Pts - Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

1 Basilisk = 125 Pts - Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

1 Basilisk = 125 Pts - Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

1 Bane blade = 637 Pts - Autocannon, Baneblade Cannon, Pintle Mounted Heavy Stubber, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Commissariat Crew, Demolisher Cannon, Twin Linked Heavy Bolter, Sponson Lascannons (x4), Twin Linked Heavy Bolter (x4)

1 Hell hammer = 610 Pts - Autocannon, Hellhammer Cannon, Pintle Mounted Stormbolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Demolisher Cannon, Twin Linked Heavy Bolter, Lascannon (x4), Twin Linked Heavy Flamer (x4)


Special Apocolypse Formations:

1 Officio Assassinorum Execution Force = 320 Pts - Flank March; Strategic Redeployment
2 Assassin Operative @ [220] Pts - Vindicare Assassin: Exitus Pistol, Exitus Rifle, Spy Mask, Stealth Suit, Marksman

Leman Russ Squadron = 490 Pts
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank - Battle Cannon, Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter, Sponson Heavy Bolter
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank - Battle Cannon, Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter, Sponson Heavy Bolter
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank - Battle Cannon, Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter, Sponson Heavy Bolter

Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron = 530 Pts
1 Leman Russ Demolisher - Demolisher Cannon, Hull Heavy Bolter, Sponson Heavy Bolter
1 Leman Russ Demolisher - Demolisher Cannon, Hull Heavy Bolter, Sponson Heavy Bolter
1 Leman Russ Demolisher - Demolisher Cannon, Hull Heavy Bolter, Sponson Plasma Cannon

Total Roster Cost: 6000

Stratagems:
Hold at all costs
Orbital Bombardment

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The Army of Baron Spikey

With his victory over the most hated of Chaos' enemies, the Eldar and Grey Knights, Lord Micyl has been granted his desire of Daemonhood and now leads a mighty warband with a legion of daemons bound to him with unholy pacts...the Imperium of Man will burn in Micyl's Dark Light.

Lord Micyl's Warband


HQ- 155

Lord Micyl (Daemon Prince)
Wings
Warptime
=155pts

ELITES- 1205

The Slaughter men- 10 Terminators
Terminator Armour
Power Weapon
Twin-Linked Bolter
Icon of Nurgle
=340pts

The Ash Borne
- 10 Terminators
Terminator Armour
Power Weapon
Twin-Linked Bolter
Icon of Tzeentch
=335pts

Squad Scarag
- 10 Chosen Chaos Space Marines
Power Armour
Bolt Pistol
Frag & Krak Grenades
Close Combat Weapon
Infiltrate
5x Bolter
2x Flamer
1x Plasma Gun
1x Meltagun
Icon of Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion; Power Fist
=265pts

Squad Gormenghast- 10 Chosen Chaos Space Marines
Power Armour
Bolt Pistol
Frag & Krak Grenades
Close Combat Weapon
Infiltrate
6x Bolter
2x Flamer
1x Plasma Gun
1x Meltagun
Icon of Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion; Power Fist
=265pts

TROOPS- 1290pts

Squad Morbus- 10 Plague Marines
Power Armour
Bolt Pistol
Frag, Krak & Blight Grenades
Close Combat weapon
Bolter
Mark of Nurgle
Fearless
Feel No Pain
1x Plasma Gun
1x Meltagun
Plague Champion; Power Fist
[Chaos Rhino w/ Extra Armour]
=345pts

Squad Vomica- 10 Plague Marines
Power Armour
Bolt Pistol
Frag, Krak & Blight Grenades
Close Combat weapon
Bolter
Mark of Nurgle
Fearless
Feel No Pain
1x Plasma Gun
1x Meltagun
Plague Champion; Power Fist
[Chaos Rhino w/ Extra Armour]
=345pts

Squad Cruentus- 10 Khorne Berzerkers
Power Armour
Bolt Pistol
Frag & Krak Grenades
Close Combat Weapon
Mark of Khorne
Fearless
Furious Charge
Skull Champion; Power Fist
[Chaos Rhino w/ Extra Armour]
=300pts

Squad Nex- 10 Khorne Berzerkers
Power Armour
Bolt Pistol
Frag & Krak Grenades
Close Combat Weapon
Mark of Khorne
Fearless
Furious Charge
Skull Champion; Power Fist
[Chaos Rhino w/ Extra Armour]
=300pts

FAST ATTACK- 620pts

Squad Neucht
- 12 Chaos Raptors
Power Armour
10x Bolt Pistol
Frag & Krak Grenades
Close Combat Weapon
2x Meltagun
Icon of Slaanesh
Aspiring Champion; Power Weapon
=310pts

Squad Lamia- 12 Chaos Raptors
Power Armour
10x Bolt Pistol
Frag & Krak Grenades
Close Combat Weapon
2x Meltagun
Icon of Slaanesh
Aspiring Champion; Power Weapon
=310pts

HEAVY SUPPORT- 870pts

Squad Golgotha- 10 Chaos Havocs
Power Armour
Bolt Pistol
Frag & Krak Grenades
Close Combat Weapon
4x Missile Launcher
Icon of Chaos Glory
[Chaos Rhino w/ Extra Armour]
=290pts

Squad Ferrule
- 10 Chaos Havocs
Power Armour
Bolt Pistol
Frag & Krak Grenades
Close Combat Weapon
4x Missile Launcher
Icon of Chaos Glory
[Chaos Rhino w/ Extra Armour]
=290pts

Squad Letum- 10 Chaos Havocs
Power Armour
Bolt Pistol
Frag & Krak Grenades
Close Combat Weapon
4x Missile Launcher
Icon of Chaos Glory
[Chaos Rhino w/ Extra Armour]
=290pts

=4151pts

Warp Rift

Ann'ggrath The Unbound (Summoned Greater Daemon)
=888pts

17 Summoned Lesser Daemons
=221pts

17 Summoned Lesser Daemons
=221pts

16 Summoned Lesser Daemons
=208pts

16 Summoned Lesser Daemons
=208pts

=1846pts

TOTAL=5997pts



Strategems:
Blind Barrage
Hold At All Costs


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Thanks for holding in here so far, remember to vote in a DIFFERENT COLOR.
This is open until may 31, 2008. read at your leisure and vote when done.

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I'll post up some tactics when I eventually start to make some sense of Spartan's list...dude it could have been clearer
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Default Re: APOC Baron VS Spartan

Whoa, Spikey using Chaos? Hmmm. This one is extra tough, so I'm gonna think on it awhile. My goodness, that is a lot of Daemons!
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Default Re: APOC Baron VS Spartan

you can blame Army builder

but lemme see

My tactics are Infantry move up and cap obj. supported by the tank companys. Useing the bassis for cover fire. The Vindicare Assassins will move to the tallest building and rain fire down on the Heavys and Hqs. The Armoured fists will move foward with the Baneblades. to cap the ****her objs. the inf will keep moving leaving one squad per building. the hq will move foward in the Chimera with the tank squads. the sentinels will also move and support the armoured fists the snipers will pick off troops. the orb Bombardment will target the warp rift when the demons arive. thats what I have so far.
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Default Re: APOC Baron VS Spartan

Here is a better look at the I. Guard... Sorry but my brain ***'d itself a little when I tried to look at the orginal Army list. I think this one is much more clear.

I will post my thoughts after I read over both sides tactics.

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The Apocalypse Army of Spartan
6000 Pts - Imperial Guard Roster - 41st Steel Legion


HQ:

Command Platoon = 664
Heroic Senior Officer - Carapace Armour1 Macharian Cross, Plasma Pistol, Power Fist
Guardsmen
1 Medic - Carapace Armour, Medi-pack, Laspistol & CCW
1 Standard Bearer - Laspistol & CCW
1 Veteran - Carapace Armour, Bolter
1 Veteran - Carapace Armour, Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
1 Chimera - Heavy Bolter, Hull Heavy Bolter

6 Anti-Tank Squad - Lasguns, Lascannon (x3)

1 Sentinel - Armoured Crew Compartment, Extra Armour, Autocannon (x1)

6 Special Weapon Squad - Lasguns, Sniper Rifle (x3)

1 Priest @ 65 Pts - Eviscerator
1 Sanctioned Psyker - Force Weapon, Laspistol
1 Commissar - Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon

Elite:

Hardened Veterans = 165 Pts
4 Hardened Veterans - Lasgun, Plasmagun (x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant - Carapace Armour; Lasgun
1 Chimera - Multilaser; Hull Heavy Bolter

Hardened Veterans = 161 Pts
4 Hardened Veterans - Shotgun, Meltagun (x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant - Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon
1 Chimera - Multilaser; Hull Heavy Bolter

Storm Troopers = 167 Pts
4 Storm Troopers - Hellgun w/targeted, Grenade Launcher (x2), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Veteran Sergeant - Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Chimera - Multilaser

Storm Troopers = 171 Pts
4 Storm Troopers - Vox Caster, Hellgun w/targeted, Plasma gun (x2), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Veteran Sergeant - Hellpistol, Power Weapon, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Chimera - Heavy Bolter; Hull Heavy Bolter

Storm Troopers = 166 Pts
4 Storm Troopers - Vox Caster, Hellgun w/targeted, Meltagun (x2), Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Veteran Sergeant - Hellpistol, Power Weapon, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Chimera - Multilaser



Troops:

Armoured Fist (11#, 166 Pts)
9 Armoured Fist - Vox Caster; Lasgun, Flamer; Autocannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW
1 Chimera - Multilaser



Infantry Platoon #1 = 599 Pts

Command Squad = 137 Pts
1 Junior Officer - Close Combat Weapon; Laspistol
3 Guardsmen - Vox Caster; Laspistol & CCW (x3)
1 Veteran
1 Chimera - Camo Netting; Heavy Flamer; Hull Heavy Flamer

9 Infantry Squad = 81 Pts - Lasguns, Flamer, Autocannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 85 Pts - Lasguns, Plasmagun, Missile Launcher
1 Sergeant - laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 78 Pts - Lasguns, Grenade Launcher, Heavy Bolter
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 78 Pts - Lasguns, Grenade Launcher, Heavy Bolter
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 85 Pts - Lasguns, Plasmagun, Autocannon
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

4 Remnant Squad = 55 Pts - Lasguns, Meltagun, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW, Frag Grenade, Krak Grenade



Infantry Platoon #2 = 493 Pts

Command Squad = 163 Pts

Junior Officer = 45 Pts - Laspistol; Power Weapon
1 Medic - Medi-pack
3Veteran - Bolter
1 Chimera - Camo Netting, Multilaser, Hull Heavy Bolter

1 Commissar = 41 Pts. - Close Combat Weapon; Bolter

9 Infantry Squad = 60 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 60 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 60 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 60 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

9 Infantry Squad = 60 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW

4 Remnant Squad = 30 Pts - Lasguns
1 Sergeant - Laspistol & CCW



Fast Attack:

Hellhound = 120 Pts - Extra Armour; Inferno Cannon; Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter

Heavy Support:

1 Basilisk = 125 Pts - Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

1 Basilisk = 125 Pts - Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

1 Basilisk = 125 Pts - Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

1 Basilisk = 125 Pts - Earthshaker Cannon; Hull Heavy Bolter; Indirect Fire Capability

1 Bane blade = 637 Pts - Autocannon, Baneblade Cannon, Pintle Mounted Heavy Stubber, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Commissariat Crew, Demolisher Cannon, Twin Linked Heavy Bolter, Sponson Lascannons (x4), Twin Linked Heavy Bolter (x4)

1 Hell hammer = 610 Pts - Autocannon, Hellhammer Cannon, Pintle Mounted Stormbolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Demolisher Cannon, Twin Linked Heavy Bolter, Lascannon (x4), Twin Linked Heavy Flamer (x4)


Special Apocolypse Formations:


1 Officio Assassinorum Execution Force = 320 Pts - Flank March; Strategic Redeployment
2 Assassin Operative @ [220] Pts - Vindicare Assassin: Exitus Pistol, Exitus Rifle, Spy Mask, Stealth Suit, Marksman


Leman Russ Squadron = 490 Pts
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank - Battle Cannon, Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter, Sponson Heavy Bolter
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank - Battle Cannon, Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter, Sponson Heavy Bolter
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank - Battle Cannon, Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter, Sponson Heavy Bolter


Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron = 530 Pts
1 Leman Russ Demolisher - Demolisher Cannon, Hull Heavy Bolter, Sponson Heavy Bolter
1 Leman Russ Demolisher - Demolisher Cannon, Hull Heavy Bolter, Sponson Heavy Bolter
1 Leman Russ Demolisher - Demolisher Cannon, Hull Heavy Bolter, Sponson Plasma Cannon

Total Roster Cost: 6000

Strategems:
Hold at all costs
Orbital Bombardment
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Leaning heavily to the guard as of now....

Gonna need to see what Spiky is going to do about those tanks before my judgment though.

Damn Micyl....My Eldar should of killed him when they had the chance...
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hmm...with the ability to see Spartan's list a bit more clearly I am both concerned and happy.

Happy because the way I see it I have slightly more infantry than he does not including the Daemons. Also all my infantry is either mounted, can fly, or has the ability to infiltrate/deep strike whilst the majority of his are foot sloggers.

Concerned because that's a lot of armour to chew through.

Tactics
I'll use my havocs and plague marines to capture the 2 most northerly objectives in my half of the board, leaving a squad of havocs on the 1st objective (Objective 1) and a squad of both on the more southerly objective (Objective 2)- the remaining 2 squads will then try and claim the top most of Spartan's objectives (Objective 4).

The Berzerkers will be travelling with the Plague Marines and Havocs until Objective 2 is reached where they will continue towards the right hand side of the battlefield with the Raptors/Daemon Prince following on a parallel course slightly towards the centre (so they'd be in support of the Plague Marines and Havocs when Objective 4 is taken). Their job will be to create destruction amongst the Imperial Guard rearguard firing lines (infantry based heavy support, Basilisks etc).

I'll use the infiltrate ability of the Chosen to claim the most southerly of the objectives in my board half (Objective 3) leaving the Terminators to be called in by either themselves or the Raptors (as all 4 units have Icons) as the situation demands.

When the Daemons appear they will move as quickly as possible to engage the Imperial Guard firing lines, especially Ann'ggrath The Unbound who will be aiming to get in amongst Spartan's armoured units where he could reliably carve up the Baneblade/Hellhammer without too much difficulty, once my units (especially the daemons) have gotten close enough to Objectives 5 & 6 for them to be fired upon I'll activate the Blind Barrage to ensure that the Guard units won't be able to organise their firepower as easily.

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hello? a post just saying any of you (except the fantastic Sir_Servo) has read this.

oh and DK, this is the 3rd time Lord Micyl's troops have taken to the battlefield. Each time its been a bigger battle and the same core force has remained (which is one of the reasons I'm using almost 2k pts of daemons so i'm not forced to use the exact same 6k list next time)
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If Baron's quite large detachment of Daemons make it without tragedy...He'll probably get this one but still...I'm not convinced about it...What say you, Spartan?
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Hmmm

I think the hellhammer may change its targets to the Plauge Marines and Zerkers.... Don't want any CC now do we? and I may leave the Baneblade at the First Obj depending on how far his troops make it under the leman russ and chimera fire..
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Testy...Testy, Baron.

I'm just having trouble deciding for this one...Spartan has the more...Hard hitting list but your tactics are great...
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Ann'ggarath really is my ace in the hole. With his ability to move as fast as anything in the IG force, Str.10 (gargantuan creature with 8 wounds and T8 so not easy to kill) potentially infinite attacks (base of 7 which is nice) he should easily survive an orbital bombardment and I doubt even a turn of firing from a Baneblade/Hellhammer would finish him off (and considering the terrain thats the most those tanks would ever get before he pounced on them).

With his huge base Spartan might regret using Tank squadrons as this mighty daemon of Khorne could potentially come into base contact with multiple tanks (because of the necessary distances they must remain with each other), and obliterate them all. I can safely say that there is NOTHING in Spartan's force which could kill The Unbound in a single turn unless he turned his entire army on him...which would just mean everything else would be unmolested for a turn. muhahahaha
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what a big battle i was giving you guys some time to flesh out all your tactics
i think im ready to vote
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plus all those deamons i think off set any advantage
all that ord would have given his opponent
but all that fire power was cut out by the city map anyway
the only heavy weapons that he has that can touch anything on the board is the basilisks
but they wont be enough
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A khorne Demon ehh? hmmmmmmm I've seen worse..lol try shooting a Thunderhawk out of the sky with a damned autocannon...This is a reminder never put your whole army in a Thunderhawk...No but if anything THe hellhammer can be sacrificed to the demon a reactor explosion can hurt but also with my Hold at all costs and the # of infantry it should be fun. anyway good luck Baron so minus the main command I have 145 infantry all of em have to be killed to not count as obj holders
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The one Problem I see for Baron is that those tank companies won't be alone...They'll be surrounded by swarms of infantry.
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And not including my Daemon Contingent I have:

30 Undivided Havocs (Re-roll Morale Checks, Icon for Deep Striking)

20 Plague Marines (Feel No Pain, T5, Fearless, same Initiative as IG so they won't strike last in most cases)

20 Khorne Berzerkers (Furious Charge, Fearless)

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10 Tzeentch Terminators (4+ Inv Sv)

10 Nurgle Terminators (T5)

24 Slaanesh Raptors (I5, Icon for Deep Striking)

=134 Infantry

All of a much higher quality than the IG, I don't think those 9 extra men would be of the greatest help to the Guard...

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1 Daemon Prince (Wings, re-roll hits and wounds on a successful psychic test)

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All of which has to be killed to stop me holding objectives as well.

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I knew I should Have stuck to infantry lol but that would mean Building like a crazy fool lol Anyway Best of luck and breat a leg Baron
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OK I finally have reached a decision. Both lists were amazingly well done.

Tons of fire power from the gaurd vs the insane toughness of what Chaos is bringing to the table has made this one of the more difficult battles to vote on. But I think that there is one major factor that does the I. Guard on this one and that is city fight. If he had brought more artilery that didn't need LOS or more flamers/hellhounds than maybe, but the survivability of the Choas that can just be increased by taking cover and making sure that LOS is limited I think I will have to go with Them on this one.

Chaos has the win

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Yep. Great lists but the tactics are pushing me to vote for Chaos though I think Guard has a chance to win, Baron's tactics are superior.
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I think the baron is off to a better start with tougher troops but as we all have seen you only need one bad roll to go from a crushing victory to a desperate struggle to draw. This was an incredibly tough choice seeing as all that ordnance can rip almost anything up but I'mma have to go with CHAOS for the sheer number of troops and demons which are infinantly more durable than the imperial guard, now mind you that they still have to rip up allot of tanks so I think that the guard have a chance to pull off a victory but the baron is more sure to win


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