Fuegan vs Word Bearer

[Brother Warchild]

Mission:Take and Hold (Big Bridge)
Board:4x8
Turns:6
Terrain:Marked on map


BATTLEFIELD



List: Fuegan

Eldrad Ulthran-
210pts

5x Pathfinders-ranger sniper rifles, shuriken pistols-
120pts

10x Dire Avengers-exarch (w/defend,bladestorm,twin catapults), avenger catapults-
167pts

Wave Serpent,shuriken cannon,twin-linked shuriken cannon,spirit stones-
120pts

10x Fire Dragons-exarch (w/firepike), fusion guns-
180pts

Wave Serpent,twin-linked Eldar Missile Launcher, shuriken cannon,spirit stones-
140pts

10x harlies-troupe master (w/power weapon),9 harlequin's kisses, shadowseer, shuriken pistols-
266pts

5x dark reapers-exarch (W/fast shot, Eldar missile launcher), reaper launchers-
217pts

autarch-mandiblasters, fusion gun, scorpion chainsword-
105pts

10x warp spiders-exarch (W/add. death spinner, powerblades,withdraw), deathspinners-
262pts

vyper-shuriken cannon,shuriken cannon-
60pts

1847pts

List: Word Bearer

HQ: Heroic Senior Officer, Carapace armour, Refractor field, Power Weapon, Plasma Pistol, 3 Plamsma Guns, Medic.
146pts

Fire Support Squad(6 guardsmen 3 with lasguns), 3 Autocannons.
95pt

Anti-Tank Squad(6 guardsmen, 3 with lasguns), 3 Missle Launchers.
95pts.

Elite: 6 Ogryn(equipped with ripper guns), Bone 'ead, Carapace Armour, Chimera, Heavy Bolter.
240pts

Elite: 5 Hardened Veterans, Veteran Sgt, Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, 3 Plasma Guns.
90pts

Troop: Junior Officer, Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon, 2 Plasma Guns, Medic.
86pts.

Squad Alpha(ten guardsmen with lasguns, one is a sergeant with laspistol and CC weapon), Plasma Gun, Autocannon.
85pts

Squad Beta(ten guardsmen with lasguns, one is a sergeant with laspistol and CC weapon), Plasma Gun, Autocannon.
85pts.

Squad Charlie(ten guardsmen with lasguns, one is a sergeant with laspistol and CC weapon), Missle Launcher.
75pts

Squad Delta(ten guardsmen with lasguns, one is a sergeant with laspistol and CC weapon), Missle Launcher.
75pts

Troop: Armored Fist(ten guardsmen with lasguns, one is a sergeant with laspistol and CC weapon), Veteran Sgt., Flamer, Chimera, Heavy Flamer.
152pts

Fast: Hellhound.
115pts

Fast: 7 Rough Riders, Veteran Sgt., Power Weapon, 3 Hunting lances, 2 Melta Guns.
96pt

Fast: 3 Sentinels, 3 Autocannons.
150pts.

Heavy: Basilisk.
100pts.

Heavy: Leman Russ Demolisher, Lascannon.
165pts.

Total 1,850pts.


Voting Ends Saturday June 25th
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[fuegan17]

well obviously since i have eldrad i will fake deploy 2 units,prob harlies and warpspiders to leaves some of his units out of position. avengers will fly around in wave serpent killing any guardsmen unit that pisses them off.
my fire dragons are going to kill ogyrns first (wait they aren't tank hunting?) since they can instant death them. reaper can slow down hellhound while warp spiders use their speed to hit rear armor of the leman russ at least shaking it. vyper will hunt down the basilisk and quickly neutralize it( either by shaking it or blowing it up. rangers will pick juicy targets to fire at. harlies will, well what harlies do best, shred units in CC. eldrad will support either reapers or harlies. i can stick the harlies on the other side of the bridge in cover to prevent any units from taking it. once every units primary targets are destroyed or neutralized they will then descend upon the guardsmen with the fury of khaine. and the guardsmen won't stand a chance.oh and sentinels wont live very long. i know some people ignore them but i am eldar, i can't afford a single dead person.


sorry if its kinda messy. its my first battlefield battle

[Word Bearer 81007]

my four troop squads will be forming a great triangle. directly below the bridge with the autocannons in from with the plasma and the missle launachers in the rear. also by basilik and command squads will be placed inside the triangle to protect them from assault. the rough riders will utilize cover and be a rapid counter-strike team if someone gets to close to my triangle. hopefully this will provide me with enough fire power to remove any unit that tries to claim the bridge. also with the 2 support squad at the rear of the triangle on the sides to help with the shooting death. the rest of the army will try to maintain cover and turn 3-4 will claim the bridge for themselves. hopeing that the cover will negate all of those nasty inititaves and allow for a more nuetral combat, will somewhat nuetral...

[Capitano]

Eldar gets my vote

[IronWarriorofChaos]

hmmmm....i think Eldar have my vote
due to tactics and troop choices. and Capitano u have to put why u think the
Eldar would win(just a friendly reminder)

[Capitano]

sorry

I assumed that the tactics spook for themselves but I agree with you...

...yeah

[Word Bearer 81007]

wow this is a great start

[fuegan17]

oh and word-bearer cover won't help if i have plasma grenades(harlies) cause then we strike in initiative order

[Bremmer925]

The Eldar list is pretty good and his tactics are well thought out. There is just one small problem:
They won't work.
The autocannon/plasma loading for Guard is tailored to the Eldar. The wave serpents will be knocked out on turn 1 when they charge forward. Since they will be moving 12"-18" to close, the troops inside will be creamed and pinned. The sentinals will make very short work of the viper and be available on turn 2 to wipe out the remains of the fire dragons or dire avangers. The armored fist squad and the Hellhound will also clean them up. The missle troops will support the fire of the autocannons and plasma rifles, if need be, or take out the rangers orthe reapers. The warp spiders will have to stay in the open for a turn if they want to get behind anything. That makes them a good target for the Demolisher and the Basilisk. If they DO get behind the Demolisher, they will be in the middle of plasma soup with both HQ squads and the veteran squad right there.
I have faced this kind of Eldar attack quite a few times. The number of STR 7 attacks will wipe it out by turn 4.
My vote goes for theImperial Guard
Parker

[fuegan17]

also if you deploy your triangle like that on the bridge my harlies will be vicious because
1: its take and hold , you are going to try to take and hold it with units
2: those units will be densely packed leading to me charging first squad then running away on your assault phase then moving closer to juicer targets each turn and ripping them to pieces
3: you can't get units near objective because of harlies
4: since its take and hold I can play the waiting game and just hide all my fast units(warp spiders, dire avengers, fire dragons, wave serpents, vyper, harlies) until you try to take the objective and i can pounce on you very quickly and pin you down in combat with harlies and warp spiders(remember they both have hit & run) only to run away, shoot, and asssault again

and also since im fighting guardsmen i can have fun with eldritch storm (twice cause of eldrad)

this is the type of mission i excel in

[Word Bearer 81007]

Play the waiting game fuegan I have the range to pick at you leaving your units below half and not scoring then the units that i'm holding off with can walk in and claim the objective with little trouble since none of you units will be scoring.

[fuegan17]

if you deploy like you said you would will just hide in cover and then you can't pick me off.

[Word Bearer 81007]

Why can't I be in cover and shoot 36"-48" out of cover as long as there isn't more than 6 inches of terrain in front of me. hell I should be able to shoot at the important areas the board with my units I don't have to change my deployment at all.

[fuegan17]

remember you cant see THROUGH area terrain no matter the length i can hide behind the forest and behind the building.

[Word Bearer 81007]

yes but then you would be way to far out to claim the objective. hehe you can only do one thing sit and wait or run for the objective which either way i'm comfortable that my fire power can deal with either choice.

[fuegan17]

i have fast enough units to hide and then pounce on to the objective

[Brother Warchild]

Help your fellow Terrans out and VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jericho199]

I'm casting my vote for the Imperial Guard

Assuming the area terrain is level 2 like the hills and everything else, your wave serpents are going to have a hard time approaching even from the west side of the map since they're taller than the area terrain and can still be shot at. Even if you hug the west table edge and manage to stay out of range, you could drop the troops behind the forest at the south end of the board, it's going to be slow moving through the forest, and the Hellhound and demolisher will make short work of both squads in this case.

Now, if you want to play the waiting game, this tactic wouldn't even be viable since you wouldn't be able to move fast enough through the forest to do anything meaningful before the game is over. So the wave serpents are going to be flying directly through very heavy fire lanes in the race for the objective. With the amount of autocannons and rockets shooting at them, they're likely going to crash leaving the troops inside either dead or sitting ducks.

Your best bet then would be to keep your rangers and reapers in cover within shooting range of the bridge while trying to hold it with just your harlies and warp spiders. While harlies are whirling killy death in CC and hard to shoot at, they and your spiders won't be able to kill that many bodies decending on the objective in just a couple turns. Meanwhile your rangers and reapers can be flanked by a demolisher, a hellhound that can BBQ them in cover, an armored fist squad and a chimera full of Ogryns. Not to mention a basalisk lobbing shells at anything not in deep cover. Lucky for you he didn't take indirect firing, or you'd be in even more trouble.

Your tactics sound solid enough, but I can't see them wading through that much firepower and still be at scoring status at game's end.

[Frowbakk]

A real interesting match-up. I'd like to see the game played in real life to see if Theoryhammer holds up to reality.

Fuegan's Eldar have very good hitting power, and not too shabby durability with the large unit sizes (aside from the Pathfinders and Reapers which will be hanging back anyway) and your tactics are OK, given the lack of IG Tanks.

Word Bearer's IG can put out lots of S7 shots, probably enough to handle the Wave Serpents eventually. Going shooty against the foe is a pretty good idea, and making the Eldar come to you means less shots from the shorter range weapons.

The Harlies deserve special mention as the units best suited to taking them out, the Demolisher and the Hellhound, should be priority targets for the Eldar. However the Basilisk would be able to upset those plans fairly well.

Eldrad going un-countered is what will tip the battle in the Eldar's favor. With him augmenting the Eldar units and with some timely Mind War action I think it puts the pointy-eared ones over the top.

Victory for Fuegan

[Brother Warchild]

3-2 in favor of Fuegan but there isplenty of time left.

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[Brother Warchild]

Come on Terrans Please Vote your fellow Terrans would appreciate it. Thanks

[Brother Warchild]

This one was a close one, but the Win goes to Feugan!. Thanks for Playing guys, and to all those that did vote thanks for your Time.