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01-31-2008
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|  Fighting Dark eldar Hey i rarely play the dark eldar and i was wonderin if i could get some pointers for what an army list should probably look like in a 2000 pts game. thanks |
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 |  Re: Fighting Dark eldar well i haven't got a set list for you ultramar, but i think a fairly static, cover-protected shooting army would be your best bet. DE armor saves are crap, and their tank armor is just as crap. the speed they've got will outmatch our poor, heavy infantry and so i think it's a good idea to stay put and pump out the bolters as quickly as possible, throw in some pie plates and see what happens. the best experience, of course, is simply to try it :] and welcome to 40kterra :] -ant
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| Re: Fighting Dark eldar hide your armour those dark lances will cut a land raider in half without even blinking go infantry heavy lots of heavy bolters and pray the archon fails his invulnarable 2+ save
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| Re: Fighting Dark eldar i cant remember what its called some thing like shadow field or something (its been a while) but it gives the Dark Archon a 2+ inv save if he fails it one its gone for good
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| Re: Fighting Dark eldar its not so bad if the dice gods smile on you at least once ive seen one take about 50 saves and never fail and ive seen an other one fail its 1st save vs a pwr fist and turn to dust remember to sacrafice a cheeseburger to the dice gods before the game
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Blog Entries: 1 | Re: Fighting Dark eldar i know its a bit late but i normal go with 2 tacilal squard of 10 with a heavy bolter and plamsa gun for starts
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02-14-2008
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| Re: Fighting Dark eldar Should i go with 2 predators? 2 Vindicators? or 1 Vindicator and 1 predator?
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Blog Entries: 1 | Re: Fighting Dark eldar If you're fighting a GOOD DE player then...expect to be hurt....bad. If you're fighting an ok or beginner DE player then you'll have no problem tearing him up. No use in taking anything heavier the plasma against DE, i.e. no meltas, lascannons or anything. If you take tanks...don't expect them to live against Dark Lances. I'd go for Predator destructors with autocannons and HB's. Theres one of two ways he will probably play 1) Lots of Raiders and bikes. FAST FAST FAST army that'll run circles around you but will also have less men to shot you dead with. 2) Webway portal. Just as mobile since he can basically deep strike his whole army if he puts a webway gate some where. Expect 2-3 raiders with webway portals and tons of warriors and wynchs in reserve to come through the portal. Set up good fields of fire where ever he drops a portal. WYNCHS = close combat massacre. Run far away and shoot them. No vindicators. Whirlwind could be useful. POST A BATTLE REPORT!
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| Re: Fighting Dark eldar Ok this is the list i came up with, need input please  HQ: Tigurius-165 Troop: x3 10 Man Tactical squad-171 Heavy Bolter, Flamer, Frag Heavy: 10 Man Devestator Squad- 275 x3 Lasscannons Multi-melta x2 Vidicators- 133 Extra Armour, Smoke Fast Attack: 10 Man Assault Squad-270 Terminator Honors, Power Weapon Combat shield, Melta Bombs Elite: Dreadnought-113 Extra Armour, Smoke Venerable Dreadnought- 133 Extra Armour, Smoke 5 Man Terminator Squad-220 Assault Cannon Feel Free To comment, and fix thanks
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Blog Entries: 1 | Re: Fighting Dark eldar Quote:
You did the opposite of what I suggested. LOL
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| Re: Fighting Dark eldar Yo thanks a lot this really helps, what do you think of some scouts (NOT SNIPERS)?
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Blog Entries: 1 | Re: Fighting Dark eldar Scouts = Cheaper marines. Give 'em heavy bolters and, well, cheap front line. Scouts an infiltrate will help 'im get some cover. COVER. Even giving them snipers is good. Snipers and heavy bolter. Hell might as well. Better to have a squad pinned then coming at you.
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| Re: Fighting Dark eldar Ok, so now i got a list, then what do you think my tactics should be? i no shoot, but how should i work literally everything?
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Blog Entries: 1 | Re: Fighting Dark eldar Avoid combat with wynchs. (You'll know them. Look like gladiators and have lots of combat weapons.) Shoot them to hell, DO NOT let them get into hand to hand with you. DE HQ choices can be monstrous but they also cost lots of points. Incubii are deadly in combat and have great (+3) saves. Try and blow the transport if at all possible. Standard warrios are not anything to be afraid of in close combat but you won't want to let them bog you down and keep you still for the combat monsters to come in and finish you. DE have lots of...odd wargear. It is perfectly within the rules to ask to read his codex before playing and maybe ask him what some of his troops are. Knowledge is power.
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| Re: Fighting Dark eldar WOW your bein a big help thanks a lot! im writing this all down, i can't wait i got a big game tomarow and im sure this will help me, thanks a lot... Anything else i should No?
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Blog Entries: 1 | Re: Fighting Dark eldar Er...I hope I'm not steering you wrong... What do you know of this guy? Is he good? If he is good you might be swept up fast. DE is a fickle army to play...they will either destroy you within an insanely short amount of time or loose. P.S. You'd better post a battle report beyond "I lost..." or "I won!!!"
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| Re: Fighting Dark eldar The Guy im playing has a lot of vehicles, really good player, ive beeten him before, but that was against his chaos marines, hes like a decent player
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| Re: Fighting Dark eldar I Just wana give you guys some inout on what happened in the game. It turned out to be a 4 way carnage game with me, A ork player, and Necron and obviously Dark Eldar, i Finished in second behind the Necrons in first me in second DE in 3rd and Ork in last So it went well
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