My first list - 40K Terra

earcar · 01-01-2008

Librarian
Iron Halo, Psychic Hood, Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, Veil of Time Total: 145 points

Elites

Dreadnought:
Twin-Linked Lascannon Total: 125

Troops

Squadron 1:
7x Space Marines:
Plasma Gun Total: 115 points

Squadron 2:
7x Space Marines:
Missle Launcher Total: 115 points

Total Points:499

This is my first list so go easy on me! Make sure to point out any mistakes I have made too.

Templar Mikeel · 01-01-2008

If you're shooting for a 500 point list, take a marine from the squad with the missile launcher and add a marine to the squad with the plasma gun, for scoring purposes.

earcar · 01-01-2008

Librarian
Iron Halo, Psychic Hood, Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, Veil of Time Total: 145 points

Elites

Dreadnought:
Twin-Linked Lascannon Total: 125

Troops

Squadron 1:
8x Space Marines:
Plasma Gun Total: 130points

Squadron 2:
6x Space Marines:
Missle Launcher Total: 100 points

Total Points:499

There you go!

hairyyahoo · 01-01-2008

it might be worth tweaking the dread a bit. in a game this size you won't see many vehicles with high av, so a lascannon would be overkill. maybe an asscan?

earcar · 01-01-2008

Librarian
Iron Halo, Psychic Hood, Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, Veil of Time Total: 145 points

Elites

Dreadnought:
Heavy Flamer, Extra Armor Total: 120

Troops

Squadron 1:
7x Space Marines:
Plasma Gun Total: 115 points

Squadron 2:
7x Space Marines:
Missle Launcher Total: 115 points

Total Points:494

I change the dreadnougt to have a heavy flamer and extra armor.

Edit: Crap. Librarian should be 170 points, not 145, because of Iron Halo. Should I just remove the Iron Halo?

hairyyahoo · 01-01-2008

the heavy flamer is an addon for the ccw arm, you still need a right arm weapon. and yeah, downgrade the libby a touch as he's a bit too loaded for such a small game.

earcar · 01-01-2008

Librarian
Psychic Hood, Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, Veil of Time Total: 145 points

Elites

Dreadnought:
Heavy Flamer, Assault Cannon, Extra Armor Total: 120

Troops

Squadron 1:
7x Space Marines:
Plasma Gun Total: 115 points

Squadron 2:
7x Space Marines:
Missle Launcher Total: 115 points

Total Points:494

That's correct, right? And Libby's get the Psychic hood free, I presume?

hairyyahoo · 01-01-2008

looks better but you forgot to rejiggle the tac squad numbers to 6 and 8

masterofweirdness · 01-01-2008

unless you really want the libby I would seriously suggest switching him out for a chaplain or commander. the cheaper chaplain, with bolt pistol, crozius, rosarius and termie honors is only 101 points! sure you don't get a force weapon or pychic powers, but you get 5 attacks BASE for that model... and a 4+ inv. save.

A captain gives all your marines LD9, a master LD10. Those are very nice.

Libbys IHMO are a bit over powered. Honestly if you want one I think the best way to run one is just a basic cheapy one w/ a bolt pistol and maybe a familar... otherwise they get very expsenive very fast.

Dragoon King · 01-01-2008

Hmmm, does your Dread have smoke launchers?

r4wr89 · 01-01-2008

yea smoke launchers are a must ! especially since dreads are slowwww walker dudes :]
i have to agree with masterofweirdness though, i just never really felt a connection with libbies. unless you a. really want to use him, or b. have the model and thus want to use him, haha both of which are viable options, then i would personally change to either the cheaper librarian or just to a different HQ. :]
cheers !
-ant

Dragoon King · 01-01-2008

Are librarians the ones with the Mindworm pyschic power? I gotta a little taste of that my last battle, and I did not like it! (nor did the Terminator it killed!)

masterofweirdness · 01-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Dragoon King

Are librarians the ones with the Mindworm pyschic power? I gotta a little taste of that my last battle, and I did not like it! (nor did the Terminator it killed!)

Mindworm? Wait... that power doesn't sound like one that the normal SM codex has...

Mindwar is an eldar power however.

I'm not saying that libby aren't any good... its just that they are expesnive and not amazing in small point battles.

Dragoon King · 01-01-2008

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Originally Posted by masterofweirdness

Mindworm? Wait... that power doesn't sound like one that the normal SM codex has...

Mindwar is an eldar power however.

I'm not saying that libby aren't any good... its just that they are expesnive and not amazing in small point battles.

Well, it was my friend's Dark Angels who used it on me. Might have been one of his Independent Characters. If I'm not mistaken, it came from a Command Squad.

earcar · 01-01-2008

Librarian
Psychic Hood, Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, Veil of Time Total: 145 points

Elites

Dreadnought:
Heavy Flamer, Assault Cannon, Extra Armor, Smoke Launcher Total: 123

Troops

Squadron 1:
8x Space Marines:
Plasma Gun Total: 115 points

Squadron 2:
6x Space Marines:
Missle Launcher Total: 115 points

Total Points:497

I chose libby becaues I heard that they were good. Besides, what else would I spend 40 pts. on if I had a Chaplain?

masterofweirdness · 01-01-2008

Chaplain (cheaper one) - Crozius, Rosarius, Bolt Pistol, Termie Honors - 101 pts

Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers - 123pts

Tactical squad x 10 - Bolters, Plasma Guns - total of 160pts

Tactical squad x 8 - Bolters - 120 pts

Hmm... that's what I came up with... you could switch it up a bit, maybe trade some marines for marines... or you could get a squad of scouts... which are cheaper and better for close combat...

earcar · 01-01-2008

Chaplain (cheaper one) - Crozius, Rosarius, Bolt Pistol, Termie Honors - 101 pts

Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers - 123pts

Tactical squad x 6 - Bolters, Plasma Guns - 100pts

Tactical squad x 5 - Bolters, M. Launcher - 85 pts

Scout Squad x 5 - Snipers x 5 - 90

Total Pts: 499

I would use the Dreadnought for CC, then the snipers could take out infantry.

Is this too radical? Or is it a good list?

Radeon · 01-01-2008

@ Dragoon King: Mindworm is Grandmaster Ezekiel's psychic power. He is the only unit in the game that can use it. I field him in all my my games that are 1500 points or more. It's a great character killer.

masterofweirdness · 01-01-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by earcar

Chaplain (cheaper one) - Crozius, Rosarius, Bolt Pistol, Termie Honors - 101 pts

Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers - 123pts

Tactical squad x 6 - Bolters, Plasma Guns - 100pts

Tactical squad x 5 - Bolters, M. Launcher - 85 pts

Scout Squad x 5 - Snipers x 5 - 90

Total Pts: 499

I would use the Dreadnought for CC, then the snipers could take out infantry.

Is this too radical? Or is it a good list?

I would say that this is a very good list... its not to standard either... just one more suggestion... put the plasma gun tactical squad as a command squad, and give them all CC+BP so that your chaplain has some more OFMP. You can get CC marines by buying the blood claw boxed set, just get rid of all the space wolf junk... or keep it later for conversions and the like!

Dragoon King · 01-01-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radeon

@ Dragoon King: Mindworm is Grandmaster Ezekiel's psychic power. He is the only unit in the game that can use it. I field him in all my my games that are 1500 points or more. It's a great character killer.

Yup, I guess it was him then. It's a pretty nasty power if it hits. Turned one of my termies into a gibbering idiot!

earcar · 01-01-2008

Chaplain (cheaper one) - Crozius, Rosarius, Bolt Pistol, Termie Honors - 101 pts

Command Squad x 5 - Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon - 75pts

Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers - 123pts

Tactical squad x 6 - Bolters, M. Launcher, Plasma Gun - 110 pts

Scout Squad x 5 - Snipers x 5 - 90

Total Pts: 499

Theye you go, master of weirdness

Any more comments would be appreciated!

And does the scout pack come with a seargent?

Dragoon King · 01-01-2008

The Dread sounds real nasty. Also, you might wanna put a heavy bolter in the tac squad instead of Missile Launcher, but that's just me. I never seem to hit with the darn things.

masterofweirdness · 01-01-2008

Well Dragoon King... maybe you should start calling 'em rocket launchers instead of MISSile launchers. ROFL.

looks great man!

Brother Warchild · 01-01-2008

That's a good one never thought of it that way.But HB are always good in a squad.

earcar · 01-01-2008

Also for the Command Squad, can I use the sprues from the Assault squad? It would be cheaper than buying two whole boxes.

Dragoon King · 01-01-2008

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earcar Conscript Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In your basement Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My first list Librarian Iron Halo, Psychic Hood, Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, Veil of Time Total: 145 points Elites Dreadnought: Twin-Linked Lascannon Total: 125 Troops Squadron 1: 7x Space Marines: Plasma Gun Total: 115 points Squadron 2: 7x Space Marines: Missle Launcher Total: 115 points Total Points:499 This is my first list so go easy on me! Make sure to point out any mistakes I have made too.

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Templar Mikeel Major Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,777 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 217 Thanked 156 Times in 97 Posts	If you're shooting for a 500 point list, take a marine from the squad with the missile launcher and add a marine to the squad with the plasma gun, for scoring purposes. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Don't To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. the Killer! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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earcar Conscript Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In your basement Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Librarian Iron Halo, Psychic Hood, Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, Veil of Time Total: 145 points Elites Dreadnought: Heavy Flamer, Extra Armor Total: 120 Troops Squadron 1: 7x Space Marines: Plasma Gun Total: 115 points Squadron 2: 7x Space Marines: Missle Launcher Total: 115 points Total Points:494 I change the dreadnougt to have a heavy flamer and extra armor. Edit: Crap. Librarian should be 170 points, not 145, because of Iron Halo. Should I just remove the Iron Halo? Last edited by earcar; 01-01-2008 at 01:37 AM.

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r4wr89 The Emperor's Mercy Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pelossus Alida Posts: 1,783 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 261 Thanked 64 Times in 56 Posts	yea smoke launchers are a must ! especially since dreads are slowwww walker dudes :] i have to agree with masterofweirdness though, i just never really felt a connection with libbies. unless you a. really want to use him, or b. have the model and thus want to use him, haha both of which are viable options, then i would personally change to either the cheaper librarian or just to a different HQ. :] cheers ! -ant __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. SHOWBREAD. ANOREXIA/NERVOSA. MAY THIRTEENTH TWO THOUSAND EIGHT.

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earcar Conscript Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In your basement Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Librarian Iron Halo, Psychic Hood, Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, Veil of Time Total: 145 points Elites Dreadnought: Twin-Linked Lascannon Total: 125 Troops Squadron 1: 8x Space Marines: Plasma Gun Total: 130points Squadron 2: 6x Space Marines: Missle Launcher Total: 100 points Total Points:499 There you go!

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earcar Conscript Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In your basement Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Librarian Psychic Hood, Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, Veil of Time Total: 145 points Elites Dreadnought: Heavy Flamer, Assault Cannon, Extra Armor Total: 120 Troops Squadron 1: 7x Space Marines: Plasma Gun Total: 115 points Squadron 2: 7x Space Marines: Missle Launcher Total: 115 points Total Points:494 That's correct, right? And Libby's get the Psychic hood free, I presume?

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Dragoon King Arch Heretic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cawood, KY Posts: 2,586 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 69 Thanked 77 Times in 60 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Are librarians the ones with the Mindworm pyschic power? I gotta a little taste of that my last battle, and I did not like it! (nor did the Terminator it killed!) __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. “Nothing you can lose by dying is half so precious as the readiness to die, which is a man’s charter of nobility.” George Santayana.

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earcar Conscript Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In your basement Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Librarian Psychic Hood, Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, Veil of Time Total: 145 points Elites Dreadnought: Heavy Flamer, Assault Cannon, Extra Armor, Smoke Launcher Total: 123 Troops Squadron 1: 8x Space Marines: Plasma Gun Total: 115 points Squadron 2: 6x Space Marines: Missle Launcher Total: 115 points Total Points:497 I chose libby becaues I heard that they were good. Besides, what else would I spend 40 pts. on if I had a Chaplain?

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earcar Conscript Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In your basement Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Chaplain (cheaper one) - Crozius, Rosarius, Bolt Pistol, Termie Honors - 101 pts Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers - 123pts Tactical squad x 6 - Bolters, Plasma Guns - 100pts Tactical squad x 5 - Bolters, M. Launcher - 85 pts Scout Squad x 5 - Snipers x 5 - 90 Total Pts: 499 I would use the Dreadnought for CC, then the snipers could take out infantry. Is this too radical? Or is it a good list?

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Radeon Trooper Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 6 Thanked 13 Times in 7 Posts	@ Dragoon King: Mindworm is Grandmaster Ezekiel's psychic power. He is the only unit in the game that can use it. I field him in all my my games that are 1500 points or more. It's a great character killer.

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earcar Conscript Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In your basement Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Chaplain (cheaper one) - Crozius, Rosarius, Bolt Pistol, Termie Honors - 101 pts Command Squad x 5 - Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon - 75pts Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers - 123pts Tactical squad x 6 - Bolters, M. Launcher, Plasma Gun - 110 pts Scout Squad x 5 - Snipers x 5 - 90 Total Pts: 499 Theye you go, master of weirdness Any more comments would be appreciated! And does the scout pack come with a seargent?

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Dragoon King Arch Heretic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cawood, KY Posts: 2,586 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 69 Thanked 77 Times in 60 Posts Blog Entries: 1	The Dread sounds real nasty. Also, you might wanna put a heavy bolter in the tac squad instead of Missile Launcher, but that's just me. I never seem to hit with the darn things. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. “Nothing you can lose by dying is half so precious as the readiness to die, which is a man’s charter of nobility.” George Santayana.

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earcar Conscript Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In your basement Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Also for the Command Squad, can I use the sprues from the Assault squad? It would be cheaper than buying two whole boxes.