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Old 02-14-2008   #31 (permalink)
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Default Re: Where have all the marines gone?

Do you have the 4th Ed rulebook? It's got it in there, along with some kick-ass artwork.
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Default Re: Where have all the marines gone?

Just like the heresy but without the primarches and dark gods and the emperor.

One guy had too much power within the imperium

You know what they say, power corrupts, but supreme power corrupts supremely


He controlled ALL of the assassin cults + various other things including the SoB if i`m not mistaken, all of which he uses for his own personal gain, and at some point a civil war breaks out and he`s killed in the end by a Sororita

That`s when the Assassin cults were also deemed as independed entities within the imperium
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he actually founded the SoB though he renamed them the Brides of the Emperor.
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Black Templars have alot more than 1000 marines... and ya thats why the big "I" isnt too happy with them. But they say screw you and go hunt Ghazkull. So the Imperium doesnt really care since they havent caused any problems and hey why wouldnt you want more loyal marines?
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Default Re: Where have all the marines gone?

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Interesting... It only makes sense that pretty much everyone would bend that rule. Just one more reason to despise smurfs... stubborn fools.

What was the age of apostasy? I've heard about it before.
they smurfs have more that a 1000 also
look in the SM codex
i think pg68 itlist the whole chapter
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Most codex chapters will have more than a thousand Marines in total because the majority follow the Ultramarines style of organisation, but because those numbers over the standard 1000 are specialists and support troops they're not usually counted towards the total.
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I have both of those books. Romulas, thats where I got the concept, and I thought that the Command staff were included in the first company. I'll check out my 4th rulebook, and thanks.
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Default Re: Where have all the marines gone?

I like the iron hands since they split into 10 "chapters" each called a Clan Company each the strength of a full size chapter (near as i can tell from the fluff) so as far as i can see they can still feidl legion level numbers but so that 1 man doesent have control of them all they have their clan council.
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Iron Hand clans aren't Chapter size, they operate independently most of the time like Space Wolf Great Companies, and like them they're probably slightly bigger than your standard Codex Company but nothing like a thousand marines in each
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Its hard to find reliable iron hands fluff, there are only 2 sourses i know of right now, the iron hands novel and horus herecy series which doesent help.
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Theres also Index Astartes- has sections on all the First Founding Legions (think the Iron Hand one is about 6-7 pages long)
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Default Re: Where have all the marines gone?

I never saw that article, is there a link to it i can get?
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