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Blog Entries: 3 | Right.. Well this is my first tutorial, so I hope you all like it... Comments and critiques are welcome and asked for really! Step One: Select your bolter! This is actually more complicated than you might think! A lot of Imperial Bolters have aquillas on them, which is a BIG no-no unless you are doing an Emperors Children marine.. Pre-Heresy, that was the only Legion allowed to display the Aquilla, other than the Custodes. Note: for the purposes of this tutorial and others, the Marine in question *will* be an Emperors Children marine... So there *will*be Aquillas) This bolter will also need to be a 'banana clip' type. Chain fed bolter won't really work for this method, though by all means if you feel like THAT much GS work, be my guest *shudders* For this demo, here is our bolter: ]Step Two: Grab a cutting mat. Self-healing is best... Staedelter I belive, makes a self healing mat with an xacto knife set. 3 handles of varying size and about 10+ blades come in a nice little carrying case, and a self healing mat, for about $20 bucks.. Best $20 I ever spent. Otherwise, get something thikc, even a kitchen cutting board will do. I don't advise any protective gloves, you need your manual dexterity, though I can not emphasize enough the following: CUT AWAY FROM YOUR OWN BODILY APPENDAGES! IF YOU CUT YOURSELF, RUN THE WOUND UNDER COLD WATER AND APPLY PRESSURE! Step 3: You will want the typical #11 xacto blade. Take the bolter and carefully remove the clip and the grip from the body... The hardest part here is to not damage the barrel or trigger when removing the grip & clip. I simply stabbed down with the point of the blade at the back of the grip, and cut towards the barrel, then stopped, and stabbed right before the barrel then reversed the cut, then just pressed down a bit between the barrel and the grips body and voila, it came free! The same process as above can be applied to the grip, though I have found it nigh impossible to keep from damaging the trigger guard.. A little bit of GS can rebuild it though. Also, you can (if you're just doing showcase, or have extra bolters) clip the handle/trigger from a spare bolter! It's up to you.. Once you are done, the results should be thus: ![]() Step 4: You may notice the slight dip/shelf between the body of the gun where the clip was.. Do NOT panic though! This is a simple fix! Take a PINCH of green stuff or the like, and fill that gap in, using a sculpting tool to smooth and flatten the GS (or the flat of your xacto if you have no other tool). When you are done, it should resemble this: ![]() Step 5: The first step is to attach the grip just in front of the trigger guard. Ideally, you should let your GS cure for 30 minutes +... PLUS being the most ideal.. If you can't wait though, it won't ruin things, you may just have to re-smooth and shape the GS as you move along! Now, once the grip is attached, let it dry FULLLY in place. If it shifts in these following steps, the result will look rather funny! Make sure, also, that super glue is what you use in this step, as the surface is not a full plastic-to-plastic bond, so polystyrene cement will lack the bonding power. Step 5's completion should be thus: ![]() Step 6: Now, to attach the clip. There should be a rather natural little shape/cradle where the clip can fit, and if you have not let the GS cure for a period of time. I can not stress it enough now that you should just walk away from this project now and let it do it's magic and cure... If you are that impatient, you can be clipping and filing and sanding and smoothing the edges for a second one while you wait! Make sure, also that you have used super glue on this step as well, due to GS being the primary surface to bond to. You want the edge of the piece above the clip to be flush and straight with the end of the bolter where the barrel is.. I have heard suggestions that if you can't get it to line up, you can splice the barrel off and use a blade to help line it up, though I didn't find it necessary. Step 6: Your bolter should be completely, hopefully with minimal accidents, blood shed, or cursing! It goes without saying that every bit clipped from the bolter should be sanded or filed smooth before GS or glue is applied, and that you should use the minimal amount of GS you can when called for. The finished result should resemble this: ![]() After the GS and glue have COMPLETELY cured, you will need to file the GS smooth, fill in cracks, and all other sundries.. Since at the time of publishing, the materials have not FULLY cured (24 hours is the given usual), the finished product pictured will look rough shod.. Some also debate and say the grip should be GS filled and made to be leather. I think however, just painting it such a color is fine. It is a personal choice though! I hope you've found this informative and helpful, and please ask any questions you have, I'll try my best to answer! Tutorials to come(in no particular order): Bolter straps Leather Belts w/ buckle (Black Templars convertors alert!) Woven belt ropes (for those Dark Angel Lovers!) Robes and hood (both pulled up over helm and lowered) Toga/tabard Pre-Heresy Power Armor Shoulder Pads |
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| Soldaten ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I like it! a Lot! Though Hobby wise I have to interject. Im not too fond of the cocker so hung down. you should of had it even with the rest of the gun just like it was originally. Still great!
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Blog Entries: 3 | Thats actuaslly just as result of the GS 'sagging'.. right after the pic I pressed it up a little and it sets flush now! Technically, you COULD do it elsewise and make it flush, I just never though to do so really... |
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| Grandpa Nurgle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Nice Tut there erus it turned real good.I am gonna have to try this one as i will be doing some Luna Wolves before summer.
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Blog Entries: 3 | Not: to fix the problems Steellegioncpt pointed out(if you don't like that look), simply do the following: Instead of using GS to fill in the gap, merely take your blade, and cut a further tiny bit of plastic from the body of the gun, making the indent span all the way back to the trigger guard. Glue the grip in, the the clip. You may find you need to shave the blunt top end of the clip down so it will fit. Don't worry, this is normal in my experience! |
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| The Emperor's Mercy ![]() ![]() ![]() | wow erus, that is pretty sweet, i gotta say. if i had any bolters left [i LITERALLY used every...single...one of mine :P] i would try it. i guess it'll have to wait until my next box eh? :]
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Blog Entries: 3 | Thanks... I kinda figure out halfway through trying to do these terminator shoulder pads that I'm forgetting an essential step... I know it involves a trimmed down power armor and a terminator pad, but I'll be burned if I know how, and i'm running low on spares! :eeK: @r4 If you want to try it that bad, I have like... 40+ spare chaos bolters? |
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| Hairy Hunter ![]() ![]() | ...I'm loving it... I'll be using this. an alternative I was thinking of is to make the bolter more smg like. leave the bolter as is, apart from smoothing the cocker with a little GS and moving the handle forward of the clip. I'll find a pic example and return later
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Blog Entries: 4 | Seems a bit pointless having the magazine that far forward if you're leaving the ejection opening at the back...
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| Simple, easy, and a great alternative to standard bolters. Great job +rep
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Blog Entries: 4 | For the record, the cocker is that little handle up there on the ejection opening. The other thing is just a grip, it doesn't really do anything else.
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Blog Entries: 3 | It does seem pointless Ides, I admit.. But the artwork has 'em lookin exactly like that! Considering bolters fire largely caseless ammo from an electric trigger system, I see no reason why to expect them to need a close by ejector port. |
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Blog Entries: 4 | Hmmm...considering all the artwork showing bolter casings flying out of the sides of those guns, I'm going to say that the bolter fluff is rather lacking in thought... Still, I'll look up how caseless ammo works and get back to this.
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Blog Entries: 4 | Food for thought: Caseless ammunition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia also...one last point: Standard Bolts comprise the following components: Outer casing, propellant base, main charge, mass reactive detonator cap, depleted deuterium core, diamantine tip. The standard bolter shell is standardised at .75 calibre, whereas heavy bolter rounds are larger, at 100 Cal. I suppose it depends on what pattern bolters you use, I guess.
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Blog Entries: 3 | See.. I know GW had said at one time bolters were caseless ammo.. And that proves my point about fluff perfectly.. Though some bolters i've seen don't have ejectors. However, lets keep 'er on topic.. Any C&C people? |
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| Hairy Hunter ![]() ![]() | Beautiful. Here's what I was thinking about: ![]()
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Blog Entries: 3 | Hmmmmm... That wouldn't be hard to do.... Bascially just put a bolt pistol stock/handle on the front... I'll see if I can whip one up later... |
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| Even if the ammo is caseless, it still makes sense for the gun to have an ejector port. It allows the round to be ejected incase of malfunction or whatever without having to disasemble the entire gun.
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Blog Entries: 1 | Sometimes all it takes is a simple trick to make a model unique. I like the conversion, I may try it myself. Good work, LC.
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