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Old 12-19-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default Rough Rider models=bleh!

The models imo don't look right. I mean they look mongolianish and that doesn't fit well in some armys (imagine some trying to save money by buying those for thier kreig army). Do any of you use alternatives?
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I use Brettonian and Empire Knights for at least my PDF troops but otherwise I mostly leave rough riders alone mostly b/c I dont like the models. For my Krieg I go Armour heavy so as of now I have no Death riders.
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It's because they're from an entirely different regiment from the majority of the GW guard units. I can't remember which, but there are several guides out there on making Cadian rough riders.
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Ya I saw a cool looking unit made form cadians but I dont really think they fit my army so I keep them in my PDF force to have the excuse of using Empire and Bretonian Knights in 40k.
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Not only do rough rider models look silly and out of place, but come on, horses?! Seriously. The most easily spooked animal in existence is going to charge into close combat against aliens and daemons? I think not.
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Not only do rough rider models look silly and out of place, but come on, horses?! Seriously. The most easily spooked animal in existence is going to charge into close combat against aliens and daemons? I think not.
Yea! You know, why don't they use machine horses or something? or maybe other animals like elephants or rhinos?
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Or Krieg Steeds... those are really the only ones that make sense fluff-wise. They are meant to be extremely resiliant and really mean.
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Yea! You know, why don't they use machine horses or something? or maybe other animals like elephants or rhinos?
It'd make far more sense to use a mechanical steed, or some sort of light-weight vehicle. Even bicycles make more sense!

Every animal on this planet, as we've seen and heard, have that whole "sixth sense" when it comes to danger. They're really not going to charge into close combat.

Plus, eventually we'd run out of them. Do you realize how large of a breeding/cloning facility they must have to create more and more of these easily expendable IG units? If it was something mechanical, then they could just retrieve it and repair it after a battle.
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Hell I dont know why they dont just have Guard motorcycle units instead of horsemen... thats not exactly something new, ie WW2
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It'd make far more sense to use a mechanical steed, or some sort of light-weight vehicle. Even bicycles make more sense!

Every animal on this planet, as we've seen and heard, have that whole "sixth sense" when it comes to danger. They're really not going to charge into close combat.

Plus, eventually we'd run out of them. Do you realize how large of a breeding/cloning facility they must have to create more and more of these easily expendable IG units? If it was something mechanical, then they could just retrieve it and repair it after a battle.
In reality.. Cavalry was NEVER used in head on charges like you see.. EVER... Horses won't charge a straight line. Flat statement. Take it from someone who's sat on a real destrier, in full plate with lance, and tried to make one do so. They won't. Hence why 99% of the time, horses are used to hit holes in the lines and widen, or to hit flanks. They just won't charge a line, partly because of that 6th sense bit.

overall, I dunno.. Rough Riders seem a bit funny, I think of them more as socuts and ambushers. And I think the rules shoudl represent such.
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My unit of roughriders are on Space Marine Bikes! They actually look pretty cool and are cadian models! Its fun.........
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Coudl you post some pics of that..

I had the idea for the hell jumpers of having rough riders instead of iron discipline.. And making them on big, vicious looking bikes!
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that made me laugh so hard i nearly fell out of my chair! i can just picture their legs flying round on the pedals as they try to ballance the lance

i'm sitting on a really cool rough rider conversion idea but unfortunatly if i tell you anything about it i'll have to kill you
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I can almost see the cadians on converted eldar bikes...
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I suppose thats what you plan on using for the painting contest?
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hrmmm..i've seen rough riders mounted on WHFB cold ones. looks amazing. here's another idea, if you prefer:
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I have a motorcycle I use for my OLD SCHOOL cadians from another range called Shockforce. The Human army looked like the old Cadians and they had a motorcycle guy that was a cool looking model and fit right in with metal cadians. I realize they are not "legal" as they are not GW but they are good for ideas and for small garage games.
They are not in production anymore I don't think but I have a bunch I got from Ebay and you might still be able to get them on ebay or Bartertown.
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Lookign for something that would work for an airborne army... Everyone is in valkyries... So.... Hmmm.. Needs to look elite, sleek, and kinda spec/stealth ops, but not too far gone.. Any ideas?
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