Traitors, all of you!

[Steellegioncpt]

I've noticed something disturbing within the ranks. A pattern that I wish I had not found. That is, a lot of Imperial Guard players play Tau as well, either as a second, main, or side project army. I for one am guilty of this, but I found my wrong doings and paid for my mistakes. Why do we take up the arms of a xenos? I mean the amries are extremely similar, so why bother? Damn traitors.

[MarkedByChaos]

in this war torn universe I find it comforting to know that my actions and dedication serve all within the greater good, that my heart's blood is spilled in the name of the many. I was raised to believe in the glory and might of the Emporer, that through sacrifice to him true salvation can be found. but, the universe is cruel and filled with evils no one should face alone, I may not find salvations but at least my fellows will be one step closer, as I am for their efforts.

[Steellegioncpt]

so are you for or against the Imperium, cause you start out with for the GG but end with Imperial goodness..... Im just checking were your fraith lies..

[Inquisitor Rosenadel]

I do not play Guard, nor have I played Tau (though I thought about it), however, I think it is because Tau are much like Guard in that they must rely on firepower. However, Tau do not rely as much on numbers and they do their technology. Tau seem like a very Elite for of Imperial Guard. I'm not saying that is the only difference between them, but I think that is why Guard players are drawn to the call of the Xenos.

[Steellegioncpt]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor Rosenadel

I do not play Guard, nor have I played Tau (though I thought about it), however, I think it is because Tau are much like Guard in that they must rely on firepower. However, Tau do not rely as much on numbers and they do their technology. Tau seem like a very Elite for of Imperial Guard. I'm not saying that is the only difference between them, but I think that is why Guard players are drawn to the call of the Xenos.

Inquisitor Rosenadel !! Your speach is heresy in the purest form, saying that the xenos are elites how dare you. However, I have to take into our past actions together so I will let this one go (cause your right).

[Dan296]

well steel, i for one am a minion of chaos. look at my post in the other IG forum =D
not exactly what ur talkin about. i just like the differentness of it. im the only one that has a traitor guardsmen army that ive seen / played.

[The 518th]

well i play nurgle and steel legion...personaly i hate tau..this is them...every unit is jsut sit on the edge of the table and shoot...

and being a somewhat experienced guard player we dont rely that much on firepower as we do defensive tactics...gaurd are easily out shot by many armies. but there mastery over vehicles and ordenance is unrivaled.

with guard to be succesful in tourneys they require the most finesse ever...and gaurd dont rely on numbers to muhc (excpet conscripts) guard are for moderate numbers with average quality (hw i play) non upgraded guardsmen is abotu as usefull as a gretchin...

[Steellegioncpt]

Originally Posted by The 518th

well i play nurgle and steel legion...personaly i hate tau..this is them...every unit is jsut sit on the edge of the table and shoot...

and being a somewhat experienced guard player we dont rely that much on firepower as we do defensive tactics...gaurd are easily out shot by many armies. but there mastery over vehicles and ordenance is unrivaled.

with guard to be succesful in tourneys they require the most finesse ever...and gaurd dont rely on numbers to muhc (excpet conscripts) guard are for moderate numbers with average quality (hw i play) non upgraded guardsmen is abotu as usefull as a gretchin...

WO WO Wo, how dare you say easily out shot, I mean come on no one else can set up 20 lascannons in a 2000k game no one. We got the firepower they dont, and thats why we rock.

[Inquisitor Rosenadel]

Originally Posted by Steellegioncpt

Inquisitor Rosenadel !! Your speach is heresy in the purest form, saying that the xenos are elites how dare you. However, I have to take into our past actions together so I will let this one go (cause your right).

May I remind you, Captain, that I am Inquisitor of the Emperor's most Holy Inquisition, of the Ordo Xenos. My knowledge far surpasses yours in the realm of the alien. It is not your place to question my methods, nor my knowledge, nor how I came by either. If you knew what I knew, you would not be nearly as sane as I...

Just kidding. I do love talking like an Inquisitor, though...

And I have to agree: umpteen heavy weapons are scary, even if it's 4+ hits. Massive numbers of Guardsmen can take down anything.

[The 518th]

lol its mostly jsut cause ive outshot everyone with orkzand nurgle. it was funny when i killed tau in a firfight with ork shoota boyz XD

imperial guard im my opinion are the best at high point games (2000+) but below that they leave a bit to be desired

[Steellegioncpt]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor Rosenadel

May I remind you, Captain, that I am Inquisitor of the Emperor's most Holy Inquisition, of the Ordo Xenos. My knowledge far surpasses yours in the realm of the alien. It is not your place to question my methods, nor my knowledge, nor how I came by either. If you knew what I knew, you would not be nearly as sane as I...

Just kidding. I do love talking like an Inquisitor, though...

And I have to agree: umpteen heavy weapons are scary, even if it's 4+ hits. Massive numbers of Guardsmen can take down anything.

My I address to you again Rosenadel, that the inquistion is nothing more then a band of children running around. I, however, am I man of war who drives his life into the very gaps of the dragons jaw.

haha I know what you mean I love talking like that.

[The 518th]

ya well....umm..im a steel legion colonel?

[Dan296]

Originally Posted by The 518th

imperial guard im my opinion are the best at high point games (2000+) but below that they leave a bit to be desired

i totally agree with this. most armies in fact are not at their best when played under 1500 points. i think GW designed the army lists and such to be played mostly at 2k+ games. the only army i find an exeption with is tyranids and orks. by taking hordes of basic CC troops, and an HQ (in my case hormagunts and warriors, maybe a screamer-killer) not alot of armies have enough firepower at that low level to take all of that down. orks are good at this too because they are a little bit better than nids at resisting lasguns and bolters.

[Plisken]

Originally Posted by Steellegioncpt

I've noticed something disturbing within the ranks. A pattern that I wish I had not found. That is, a lot of Imperial Guard players play Tau as well, either as a second, main, or side project army. I for one am guilty of this, but I found my wrong doings and paid for my mistakes. Why do we take up the arms of a xenos? I mean the amries are extremely similar, so why bother? Damn traitors.

Yes, well i think that were all sick of our Really godo tanks getting killed by broadsides without even breaking a sweat....Peter your tau looked cool though..so your exempt.

[Steellegioncpt]

Thank you Plisken, however though I do remember my painting skills. I need to forget what those skills were once used for Tau, Chaos. I must focus on the purity.

[Torquemada Coteaz]

Hey, better to ruin the foul Enemy than put bad paint job on our righteous troops right?

[MarkedByChaos]

Originally Posted by Steellegioncpt

WO WO Wo, how dare you say easily out shot, I mean come on no one else can set up 20 lascannons in a 2000k game no one. We got the firepower they dont, and thats why we rock.

I would prove you wrong...
Chaos has no problems with the task!

85 point troops units X 6 (06)
210 point havocs X 3 (12)

I am at 1165 and have plenty of options left over for more, I only need two and one unit will get that for me, I can get it in 1500 (and I am hitting on 3s not 4s like the IG)!

On the other hand,
Tau, Nids, Necrons, Orks, Eldar... they can't bring even one Lascannon!

it isn't the point though... IG can be out shot, rarely, but they can. what they cann't be is out gunned, IG brings more, bigger, badder guns that are backed with the most average of support... the Hammer erodes the enemy, overwelms the enemy, and outlasts the enemy!

[Torquemada Coteaz]

eldar have lances...scary stuff...

[r4wr89]

lol. i think they do because, as you said, they operate in a similar fashion, so it won't be too uncomfortable to shift between the armies. it just gives the player a different army to field while using similar tactics.

i for one, would never play tau. never. n.e.v.e.r.

eldar or dark eldar though, maybe.
i'm playing marines now with potential IG allies, probably will start a lysanderwing army in a little while...hooray for the emperor :]

haha

-ant

[Steellegioncpt]

Originally Posted by r4wr89

lol. i think they do because, as you said, they operate in a similar fashion, so it won't be too uncomfortable to shift between the armies. it just gives the player a different army to field while using similar tactics.

i for one, would never play tau. never. n.e.v.e.r.

eldar or dark eldar though, maybe.
i'm playing marines now with potential IG allies, probably will start a lysanderwing army in a little while...hooray for the emperor :]

haha

-ant

Marines....? With Imperial Guard Allies. Im all for fluff but Im sure you know that having regular space marines allied to guard is illegal. but hey if your opponent agrees that ok with me


Also go with good old Lysander and that damn LYSANDER BOMB!!!!!!!!!

[Torquemada Coteaz]

lysander bomb?

[Inquisitor Rosenadel]

Originally Posted by Torquemada Coteaz

lysander bomb?

It's actually Lysander. The other two didn't caiptalize. Captain Lysander of the Imperial Fists is a special character who has an ability where he can roll the Reserves roll for all Terminators at once, resulting in a mass teleport attack, known as a "Lysander Bomb".

[Icarus Athrasuriel]

Indeed, tis a good tactic IMO.

Anyway, I play Tau regularly, and I haved realised that alot of my opponents are also my allies. As has been said, it's likely that the similarities between the two contribute to this unexcusable heresy, but to say that Tau and IG are very alike is wrong. Though both rely on firepower, IG rely on massed firepower, while Tau prefer small bursts of concentrated, powerful fire. IMHO, it's the uber-cool skimmers that do it.

[Torquemada Coteaz]

I'm probably going to sell off my tau sometime in the next year
I really don't feel like updating to 4thed codex and really want my templars to get goin