Vindicare Assassin's? - 40K Terra

Sharpe · 10-01-2007

I like the look of these models and they would be useful for the style of game that I usually play. Is there anyway to field these in an IG army without having to get an inquisitor as a leader?

Baron Spikey · 10-01-2007

No....i feel that i should put more but I dont really need to.

Lord Commander Erus · 10-01-2007

Yeah, have to take the lord as HQ to gain access... May I ask why you chose the vindicare? Usually, performance wise, they are least effective. What makes him shine in your games?

Heroka Vendile · 10-01-2007

good for stopping combat units advancing through pinning would be my vote.

Lord Commander Erus · 10-01-2007

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Originally Posted by Heroka Vendile

good for stopping combat units advancing through pinning would be my vote.

Much more effective units to do that and not use that many pts.

experiment 626 · 10-02-2007

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Originally Posted by Heroka Vendile

good for stopping combat units advancing through pinning would be my vote.

pinning would be great, except that Ld is hardly a crutch in 40k... most units are Ld8 or 9 with their squad leaders upgraded to vet status. sure you can pick on the UC leader in the squad, but again, so many units still have that base Ld8 that it really doesn't make a huge difference.

now, times i can see a vindicare becoming a god-send;
- picking out those ass-can wielding termies
- picking out a chaos squad's icon bearer
- exarch hunting
- meltagun/flamer/heavy weapon trooper hunting
- setting up for rapid fire baiting

of corse there's loads more uses, but in general the vinidcare requires a lot of luck to be worth his pts... in a guard army, you may as well take either the T2 ratlings or else the 3 snipers allowed in a special weapons squad.

cheers!

Heroka Vendile · 10-02-2007

ratlings FTW!!

Baron Spikey · 10-02-2007

On Bell of Lost Souls they've got a comprehensive Tactica for each Assassin type (the 4 Imperials and the Death Cultists) and they raise some really cool points plus the dirty tricks are excellent and raise the Vindicare to the position of best sniper in the 40K universe and well worth his points...well anyway here the link

http://belloflostsouls.blogspot.com/...-assassin.html

EDIT: just read the comments below the Tactica and the Vindicare is now my favourite Assassin! He has the ability to set up game winners, he might not kill enough enemy models to ensure his pts cost, but the amount of disruption he can cause will be sensational.
Looks like its time to dust off my Vindicare and convert up an Inquisitor Lord to accompany the Knights.

lord marcus · 10-10-2007

under the apoc rules they become quite effective for a group of 6 for 660 pts, but so do eversors for 570 pts

Torquemada Coteaz · 10-10-2007

wait under apoc rules you get more than one assassin? how does that work O_O?

Vindicare: GENERALLY still not worth it in my opinion, too many conditions to be "good" in the "average" 40k game. (non-apoc)

lord marcus · 10-10-2007

i'll link you to it

http://us.games-workshop.com/games/4...ts/default.htm

go to assasinorum execution force at bottom and read it.

Templar Mikeel · 10-10-2007

Check the link from this thread.

SteveBerenyi · 10-10-2007

yea, that ability is awesome, say 3+ other units get pinned. then an orbital barrage..... DEAD.

Timber-WoIf · 10-10-2007

my friend uses one. he can kill my plasmas pretty reliably, but whenever its an important shot, say, to finish off my senior officer, or to penetrate the rear armor of one of my tanks, (specially when using the special bullets) he always rolls a 1 to hit. Basically, he's the joke of my friends army. Never dies though. Moslty because no1 really feels he;s worht shooting at.

Torquemada Coteaz · 10-11-2007

just scanned the rules for the 6man 'sin squad.
AWESOME.
If you can have 6 vindicares, go for it.
I stand by my opinion that 1 isn't much good though.

experiment 626 · 10-11-2007

i think i might end up doing some serious converting now! as nasty as the vinidcares are, the culexus team is just plain rude and then some!!!

cheers!

Drax · 10-12-2007

true but with the range increase on PA, with a full complement of the Culexus could keep the psykers out of range of the Animus which is what? 18"?

Lord Commander Erus · 10-12-2007

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Originally Posted by Celephus Drax

true but with the range increase on PA, with a full complement of the Culexus could keep the psykers out of range of the Animus which is what? 18"?

Isn't' the range of all the culexus abilities upped per culexus you have?

Drax · 10-12-2007

nope - just Psychic Abomination.

which IIRC is the fall back one, yes? or is it the ld one?

Lord Commander Erus · 10-12-2007

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Originally Posted by Celephus Drax

nope - just Psychic Abomination.

which IIRC is the fall back one, yes? or is it the ld one?

Not sure... I am just drooling over the wulfen guard bit. And the LotD.

Drax · 10-12-2007

why is it all the space wolves have no control over their saliver?

i must admit, i haven't looked at those two yet, but feel it wise to study the Wulfen one since there is a shifty looking sub-human player in our gaming group.

Lord Commander Erus · 10-12-2007

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Originally Posted by Celephus Drax

why is it all the space wolves have no control over their saliver?

i must admit, i haven't looked at those two yet, but feel it wise to study the Wulfen one since there is a shifty looking sub-human player in our gaming group.

Oh... Think of the wulfen guard as Wolf Guard of 13th company. 0 BS, but WS 5. And you can have as many packs of the wulfen guard as you want... Dead Nasty...

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Lord Commander Erus The Phoenician Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,323 Rep Power: 6 Thanks: 172 Thanked 316 Times in 217 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Yeah, have to take the lord as HQ to gain access... May I ask why you chose the vindicare? Usually, performance wise, they are least effective. What makes him shine in your games? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. That which causes us trials shall yield us triumph, and that which makes our hearts ache shall fill us with gladness. For the only true happiness is to learn, to advance and to improve. None of this could happen without rejecting error, ignorance, and imperfection. We must pass out of the darkness to reach the light.' - The Primarch Fulgrim, Attainment of Perfection Tutorials: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Heroka Vendile Sergeant Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Inquisitorial Fortress, near Glasgow Posts: 655 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 49 Thanked 49 Times in 29 Posts	ratlings FTW!! __________________ My Projects: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. My Reviews: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Other: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Baron Spikey Adeptus Primarch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Somewhere between Crewe and Stoke in the Midlands Posts: 1,945 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 72 Thanked 146 Times in 114 Posts Blog Entries: 1	On Bell of Lost Souls they've got a comprehensive Tactica for each Assassin type (the 4 Imperials and the Death Cultists) and they raise some really cool points plus the dirty tricks are excellent and raise the Vindicare to the position of best sniper in the 40K universe and well worth his points...well anyway here the link http://belloflostsouls.blogspot.com/...-assassin.html EDIT: just read the comments below the Tactica and the Vindicare is now my favourite Assassin! He has the ability to set up game winners, he might not kill enough enemy models to ensure his pts cost, but the amount of disruption he can cause will be sensational. Looks like its time to dust off my Vindicare and convert up an Inquisitor Lord to accompany the Knights. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* Battles Updated Daily (Enter via Insignia) Last edited by Baron Spikey; 10-02-2007 at 09:16 AM.

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Torquemada Coteaz The Grammar Cop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the TC personal =][= estate on Encaladus Posts: 1,745 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 56 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts Blog Entries: 4	wait under apoc rules you get more than one assassin? how does that work O_O? Vindicare: GENERALLY still not worth it in my opinion, too many conditions to be "good" in the "average" 40k game. (non-apoc) __________________ My Site: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. All of my stuff are there. Current Projects, etc. General Wargaming Guide: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Picture/Art Blog: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) Asomrof: Crusade Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Crusaders Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) "2k7-2k8 NHL Season" Crusade (i.e. Ottawa Senators) [WIP] To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Timber-WoIf Primer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	my friend uses one. he can kill my plasmas pretty reliably, but whenever its an important shot, say, to finish off my senior officer, or to penetrate the rear armor of one of my tanks, (specially when using the special bullets) he always rolls a 1 to hit. Basically, he's the joke of my friends army. Never dies though. Moslty because no1 really feels he;s worht shooting at. __________________ "If brute force doesn't solve your problem, then you're not using enough." To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Torquemada Coteaz The Grammar Cop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the TC personal =][= estate on Encaladus Posts: 1,745 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 56 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts Blog Entries: 4	just scanned the rules for the 6man 'sin squad. AWESOME. If you can have 6 vindicares, go for it. I stand by my opinion that 1 isn't much good though. __________________ My Site: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. All of my stuff are there. Current Projects, etc. General Wargaming Guide: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Picture/Art Blog: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) Asomrof: Crusade Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Crusaders Fluff: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. (BT) "2k7-2k8 NHL Season" Crusade (i.e. Ottawa Senators) [WIP] To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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experiment 626 Filthy, Dirty Radical Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: lost in a blizzard, somewhere near toronto! Posts: 2,731 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 20 Thanked 188 Times in 139 Posts	i think i might end up doing some serious converting now! as nasty as the vinidcares are, the culexus team is just plain rude and then some!!! cheers! __________________ "Who are you to question my methods?! A 'Puritan' is simply a coward who hides behind a veil of pretended faith and denounces his loyal brother as a traitor out of simple jealousy!" - Inquisitor Odion To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Drax The Witchhunter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In your imagination Posts: 572 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 25 Thanked 53 Times in 41 Posts	true but with the range increase on PA, with a full complement of the Culexus could keep the psykers out of range of the Animus which is what? 18"?

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Drax The Witchhunter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In your imagination Posts: 572 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 25 Thanked 53 Times in 41 Posts	nope - just Psychic Abomination. which IIRC is the fall back one, yes? or is it the ld one?

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Drax The Witchhunter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In your imagination Posts: 572 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 25 Thanked 53 Times in 41 Posts	why is it all the space wolves have no control over their saliver? i must admit, i haven't looked at those two yet, but feel it wise to study the Wulfen one since there is a shifty looking sub-human player in our gaming group.

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Drax The Witchhunter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In your imagination Posts: 572 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 25 Thanked 53 Times in 41 Posts