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Old 04-30-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default BvL's TOXG 1000 pt Krieg(potentially up to 2000)

Hey everyone,
for the Tale of X Gamers I will be working on finishing my Death Korps of Krieg regiment. Expect to see quite a few Tanks here and more infantry as I expand the 501st. I might also feature some of my custom Vehicles if I need the points and might add another 1000 pts of Jägerkorps Light Infantry. It really all depends on how much more money I can dump into Krieg.

So we'll all see where this goes and I'll post up more info here as it arises. Feel free to browse through my current WIP to see the par of the Army that is done already. Link is in my Sig.

Thanks, and I look forward to being a part of this event.
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i never think you'll ever run out of krieg regiments to do BVL!
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I'm about to start the long arduous process of actually comign up with an army list for the 501st. I'll put up the list ASAP (which might not be very soon). I'm terrible with lists by the way and have only ever made one for my Black Templars.
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im me. i can help you sort out a good list faster than a warthog on steroids. i do lists all the time, and i think i've made over 50 for guard alone.
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I can always help too BvL. IG aren't my best, but i've done a few.
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Ok guys I'll let you know if I could use some help. But for the most part I think it's just sitting down and catalogueing everything I have and turning it into an Army list. I also have to nail down the VDR rules for my special units. But again I have to do it.
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Ok guys I'll let you know if I could use some help. But for the most part I think it's just sitting down and catalogueing everything I have and turning it into an Army list. I also have to nail down the VDR rules for my special units. But again I have to do it.
Good luck then... Keep us updated.
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ok, good luck dude, don't sweat it, once you get in army lists will be a constant! i promise you that. you'll always be fiddling with lists trying to beat your old one! i know i am!
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Yo.
You want help hit me up whenever man, cause I've asked you for help before, and I think we are rather similar lol
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stitch: breaking codicies since 1999... (i know, i'm a filthy power gamer on the inside!)

anyways, i look forward to seeing the krieg! one of our staffer plays a krieg list, though sadly, while he'd like to it there's a 3 month backlog of forgeworld orders here in the frozen north!

good luck on getting any new models you might need! i hope your wait isn't nearly as horrendous as our is!

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Thanks stitch, the key is finishing what you have while you're waiting for more. But what did FW expect when they made such sweet models??

I'm going for a really fluff based army and I'll also be putting up my first ever complete army list so go easy on me when its up.
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Thanks stitch, the key is finishing what you have while you're waiting for more. But what did FW expect when they made such sweet models??

I'm going for a really fluff based army and I'll also be putting up my first ever complete army list so go easy on me when its up.
please tell us you're going to include the quartermaster! he's easily my favourite model of the krieg range.
'aw, you've got a scratch?! well, it's cheaper to give your gear to the next guy than give you a bandage so, here's your summery discharge!' *gunshot*

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Ok I've decided to bump my TOXG entry up to 2000 pts and heres the Army list so far.

501st Death Korps of Krieg ‘Isenherz/Isenblüt’ – Total pts cost: 3961 pts
501st “Isenherz” Doctrines: Total: 2103 pts
Die-Hards
Iron Discipline 25pts per squad
Hardened Fighters
Stormtrooper Squads
Heavy Weapons Squads
Rough Rider Squadrons

HQ:
Höhenstaüfen’s Command Squad + 25 pts for upgrade
Sigismund von Höhenstaüfen (Heroic Senior Officer w/Carapace Armor, Master-Crafted Powersword, Macharian Cross, Medallion Crimson, Ritterkreutz) 145pts
1x Master Vox Caster (Veteran, master vox, Carapace Armor) 36 pts
1x Standard Bearer (Veteran, Regimental Standard, Carapace Armor) 31 pts
2x Ensign’s (Veterans, Carapace Armor) 22 pts
Chimera 70 pts
Total: 329 pts

Colonel-Commissar and Heinrich von Möltke – (Master Crafted Laspistol, Powersword, Medallion Crimson) 75 pts

Commissar Luther von Manteuffel – (Master Crafted Powersword, Laspistol) 60 pts

Commissar Felix von Hammerstein – (Powersword, Shotgun) 45 pts

Total: 180 pts

Albrecht Brom (Senior Death Rider Officer w/Master Crafted Powersword, Laspistol, Cavalry, Hochland Heraldry (adds +1 attack) 10 pts) 130 pts

Troops:
1st Platoon
Platoon HQ (75 pts) + (25) upgrades
Junior Officer (Carapace Armor, Powersword, Laspistol) 45 pts
Vox Caster 5 pts
Standard Bearer (Platoon Standard) 5 pts
Meltaguner 10 pts
Plasmagunner 10 pts

1st Squad 60 pts + (38) weapons+ (25) upgrades
1x Watchmaster
1x Grenade Launcher
8x Guardsmen w/frag and krak

2nd Squad 60 pts + (36) weapons+ (25) upgrades
1x Watchmaster
1x Flamer
8x Guardsmen w/frag and krak

3rd Squad 60 pts + (38) weapons+ (25) upgrades
1x Watchmaster
1x Grenade Launcher
8x Guardsmen w/frag and krak

*4th Squad 60 pts + (40) weapons+ (25) upgrades
1x Watchmaster
1x Meltagun
8x Guardsmen w/frag and krak

*5th Squad 60 pts + (40) weapons+ (25) upgrades
1x Watchmaster
1x Plasma Gun
8x Guardsmen w/frag and krak

Total: 717 pts

2nd Platoon
*Platoon HQ (75 pts) + (25) upgrades
Junior Officer (Carapace Armor, Powersword, Laspistol) 45 pts
Vox Caster 5 pts
Standard Bearer (Platoon Standard) 5 pts
Meltaguner 10 pts
Plasmagunner 10 pts

1st Squad 60 (+36) pts + (36) weapons+ (25) upgrades
1x Vet Watchmaster w/Honorifica Imperialis and Power Weapon
1x Flamer
8x Guardsmen w/frag and krak

*2nd Squad 60 pts + (36) weapons+ (25) upgrades
1x Watchmaster
1x Flamer
8x Guardsmen w/frag and krak

Total: 378 pts

Elites:
Grenadier Stoßtrupp 158
1st Squad 61 pts + (37) options + (25) upgrades
Veteran Watchmaster (Chainsword, Hellpistol, Medallion Crimson)
1x Meltagun
1x Heavy Stubber
2x Grenadiers w/Hellguns, frag and krak

2nd Squad 61 pts + (34) options + (25) upgrades
*Veteran Watchmaster (Master Crafted Power Sword, Hellpistol)
1x Grenade Launcher
1x Flamer
2x Grenadiers w/Hellguns, frag and krak

3rd Squad 61 pts + (40) options + (25) upgrades
Veteran Watchmaster (Master Crafted Hellgun)
1x Heavy Flamer Team (2 Grenadiers)
1x Grenadier w/demo charge
1x Grenadiers w/Hellguns, frag and krak

Total: 369 pts

Heavy Support:
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Fast Attack:
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501st “Isenblüt” Doctrines: Total: 1145 (so far)
Die-Hards
Iron Discipline 25 pts per unit
Hardened Fighters
Cameleoline 10 pts per unit
Heavy Weapons Squads

HQ:
See Isenherz entry

Troops:
See Isenherz entry

Elites:
Heavy Mortar Battery 112 – 95 + Siege Shells (10pts) + 10 pts
1x Heavy Mortar 50 pts
3x Crew
1x Centaur 45 pts

Heavy Mortar Battery 84 – 95 + Siege Shells (10pts) + 10 pts
*1x Heavy Mortar 50 pts
*3x Crew
*1x Centaur 45 pts

Heavy Mortar Battery 56 - 95
*1x Heavy Mortar 50 pts + Infernus Shells (20pts) + 10 pts
*3x Crew
*1x Centaur 45 pts

Total: 355 pts

Heavy Support:
Super Heavy Detachment 214 “Rittermann”
1x Baneblade
1x Macharius Vanquisher 325 pts + (60) Weapons- Heavy Bolter
1x Macharius 325 pts + (10) Weapons- Heavy flamers

Total:

Leman Russ Squadron “Wallenstein”
1x Command Vanquisher
1x Vanquisher
1x Demolisher 150 + (25) Weapons

Total:

Super Heavy Self Propelled Siege Mortar Battery 2
SHSPSM ‘Gustav’ - VDR

Total: 400 pts

Mortar Platoon 14
*Platoon HQ (75 pts) + (35) Doctrines
Junior Officer (Carapace Armor, Powersword, Laspistol) 45 pts
Vox Caster 5 pts
Standard Bearer (Platoon Standard) 5 pts
Meltaguner 10 pts
Plasmagunner 10 pts

Mortar Squad – 80 pts + (35) Doctrines

Total: 225 pts

Fast Attack:
Sentinel Squadron “Bredow”
Krieg Pattern Command Sentinel (Heavy Stubbers, extra armor included) 60 pts
Armageddon Pattern Sentinel (Lascannon) 55 pts
Cadian Pattern Sentinel (Autocannon) 50 pts

Total: 165 pts


501st Jägerkorps Doctrines: Total: 713
Die-Hards
Iron Discipline 25 pts per unit
Hardened Fighters
Light Infantry 10 pts per unit
Sharpshooters 10 pts per unit
Special Weapon Squads

HQ:
*U]Jägerkorps HQ[/u] + 45 pts upgrades
Gottfrey von Jagow (Senior Officer w/Carapace Armor, Powersword, Laspistol, Ritterkreutz) 105 pts
Quartermaster Frederick von Topp (Quartermaster w/Laspistol, CCW, medi-pack) 30 pts
1x Vox Caster 5 pts
1x Flamer 6 pts
1x Meltagun 10 pts

Total: 201 pts

*Scharfjäger Squad 35 pts + 48 weapons + 45 upgrades
3x Snipers
3x Guardsmen w/Lasguns, frag and krak

Total: 128 pts

Troops:
*Jäger Squad 1 60 pts + 35 weapons + 45 upgrades
Watchmaster
1x Sniper
8x Guardsmen w/Lasguns, frag and krak

*Jäger Squad 2 60 pts + 35 weapons + 45 upgrades
Watchmaster
1x Sniper
8x Guardsmen w/Lasguns, frag and krak

Total: 280 pts

Elites:
*Hardened Veterans Squad 45 pts + 14 weapons + 45 upgrades
Veteran Watchmaster (Master Crafted Lasgun)
1x Flamer
1x Grenade Launcher
2x Guardsmen w/Lasguns, frag and krak

Total: 104 pts

Heavy Support:
See Isenblüt entry

Fast Attack:
See Isenblüt entry


501st Piöneerkorps Doctrines: (****)
Die-Hards
Iron Discipline 25 pts per unit
Hardened Fighters
Drop Troops (Tunnelers)
Veterans
Special Weapon Squads

HQ:
See Isenherz entry

Troops:
See Isenherz entry

Elites:
Engineer Squad 1
5x Engineers

Engineer Squad 2
5x Engineers

Engineer Squad 3
5x Engineers

(Engineer Squad 4) possibly
5x Engineers

Heavy Support:
Stürmpanzer - VDR
Yet to be named Light Tank - VDR

Fast Attack:
Armored Command Car - VDR



**Notes:**
Medals:
Isenkreutz- NCO’s Corporal-Watchmaster, adds +1 Toughness – 15 pts
Ritterkreutz- Officers only, adds +1 Leadership and +1 Toughness – 15 pts

Anything marked with a * needs to be purchased/requisitioned still.

The Piöneerkorps is still just in the planning stages and I really don’t have any idea what I’ll do with them right now but they will show up soon and I’ll use the rules for the engineers from IA 6 when it shows up.

I have some VDR vehicles that I’m working on getting rules for but I’ll do that later.

Total pts cost: 3961 pts
Pts done so far: 1116 pts (28% done)

Ok go easy on me here since this is my first ever almost complete Army list. I need rules for a LR vanquisher and I need to find the rules for a baneblade and then I'll be set for now untill I work out what the Pioneerkorps is up to.

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Thought I'd put up some info about the 501st organization and composition here so you could understand the crazyness of my Army a bit better.

501st Death Korps of Krieg 'Isenherz/Isenblüt'
501st Death Korps Commander: Lord Militant Baron Jürgen Ulrich von Lexus
’Isenherz’ Divisional Commander: Field Marshall Sigismund von Höhenstaufen
’Isenblüt’ Divisional Commander: Orden Marshall Ortwinus ”The Saint“ von Munich

Isenherz Division:
Kampfgruppe/Combat Battalion = 2 Infanty Battalions
Infantry Battalion = 5 Große Kompanies
Große Kompanie = 10 Infantry Kompanies
Infantry Kompanie = 10 Infantry Platoons
Infantry Platoon = 4-8 Infantry Squads
Infantry Squad = 10 Soldiers

Total Operational Strength:
1 Korps
2 Kampfgruppen/Combat Battalions (158th ‘Kuspen’ Combat Battalion and 310th ‘Graf Jurten’ Combat Battalion)
4 Infantry Battalion
20 Große Kompanies
200 Infantry Kompanies
2,000 Infantry Platoons
16,000 Infantry Squads
Total: 160,000 Soldiers

Actual Operational Strength:
1 Korps
2 Kampfgruppen/Combat battalions (158th ‘Kuspen’ Combat Battalion and 310th ‘Graf Jurten’ Combat Battalion)
4 Infantry Battalion
20 Große Kompanies
192 Infantry Kompanies
1920 Infantry Platoons
15,360 Infantry Squads
Total: 153,582 Soldiers

Isenblüt Division:
Siege Kompanie = 15 Große Batteries
Große Battery = 8-10 Artillery Batteries
Artillery Battery = 1-3 Guns
Gun = Gun and Crew

Assault Kompanie = 10 Tank Kompanies and 2-4 Super Heavy Detachments
Tank Kompanie = 5-10 Tank Squadrons
Tank Squadron = 3 Tanks
Tank = Tank and Crew
Super Heavy Detachment = 3 Super Heavy Class Tanks and Crew

Total Operational Strength:
8 Siege Kompanies
120 Große Batteries
1200 Artillery Batteries
3600 Guns
3 Krieg Pattern Super Heavy Self Propelled Siege Mortar “Gustav”

60 Assault Kompanies
240 Super Heavy Detachments (42 Baneblade, 150 Macharius, 24 Shadowsword, 12 Stormhammer, 12 Hellhammer)
600 Tank Kompanies
6,000 Tank Squadrons
18,000 Tanks

Actual Operational Strength:
8 Siege Kompanies
118 Große Batteries
1180 Artillery Batteries
3540 Guns
3 Krieg Pattern Super Heavy Self Propelled Siege Mortar “Gustav”

60 Assault Kompanies
236 Super Heavy Detachments (40 Baneblades, 142 Macharius, 24 Shadowsword, 12 Stormhammer, 12 Hellhammer)
600 Tank Kompanies
5942 Tank Squadrons
17,826 Tanks

Raised on Krieg 248.M41 only 300 Years after the end of the Revolt of Krieg and Colonel Jurten’s famous victory, the 501st was raised by Munitorum Tithe from Hive Ferrograd, the loyalist base on Krieg during the revolt. The 501st has a long history throughout the 41st Millennium and has taken part in multiple crusades and many campaigns. The 501st fought with distinction during the 3rd War for Armageddon at Helsreach and Hades Hive during the darkest hours of the war. After the Armageddon campaign the army was brought back to full strength and attached to the Black Templars Lothar Kroh Crusade as the bulk of Kampfgruppe Edelweiss along with other Imperial regiments. The next major engagement was the Cleansing of Geist in the final days of M41. Requisitioned by Lord Inquisitor Baron Johann Dietrich von Lexus (Jürgen Ulrich von Lexus’s brother) as part of the Kroh Crusade the 501st was employed to return Geist to Imperial hands in less than a year. The next stop for the Kroh Crusade and the 501st was Medusa V. Operating under the command of the Lord Inquisitor once again; the Kroh Crusade played a vital role in the defense of Hive Sybilla Primus and Hydra zone as a whole. After the Imperial Victory on Medusa V the Kroh Crusade was dispatched to help reclaim the world of Valdenheim where they struggle to fight off Chaos, Orks, and Rebels. The 501st is unusually unorthodox in its size and organization, and although labeled a ‘regiment’ by the Departmento Munitorum, it is more of a full scale army. Due to over 700 years of untarnished reputation and service this organization is tolerated by always working in conjunction with the Inquisition. Added to this is the weight of Kampfgruppe Edelweiss, the Black Templars and other allied forces, making the Kroh Crusade very formidable indeed. Rarely is the 501st assembled in once place all at once and about ¼ of the entire Army is actively engaged on Valdenheim. The regiment has a very rich history with many accolades and honors. Units often are named after great heroes of the regiment and Imperium as a way to pay homage to those who have given their all for the Emperor. Thus it is not uncommon for outsiders to have no idea of how the regiment is commanded and coordinated. Although unorthodox and sometimes unwieldy the 501st is a force to be reckoned with and one of the paragon ‘regiments’ of the Imperium.

DOCTRINE:
The 501st Death Korps of Krieg consists of 2"Regiments", Isenherz (Iz) (Infantry) and Isenblut (Ib) (Artillery and Armor). All Death Korps units are trained to operate in the most hostile environments and in the extensive use of trench warfare. The 501st add to these roles a specialty in Armor and City-Fighting. All Death Korps troops are masters in close quarters combat as well as adept at any range. Preferred weapons include but aren’t limited to, grenades/grenade launchers, Meltaguns, Heavy Bolters, Heavy Stubbers and Flamers.

The 501st operates in a sort of archaic blitzkrieg fashion with tanks forming the spearhead with Infantry following close behind. The infantry move behind the tanks to add weight to the assault and guard the tanks rear and flanks. This tactic is especially effective in urban environments as well as moving across no-mans-land. Tank Squadrons are typically attached to Infantry platoons and become integrated. This is the reason for the 2 regiments in one. Artillery also plays a key roll in the 501st Strategy as it provide a deadly, accurate moving field of fire to support the Armored advance. The Infantry are experts in Stormtroop tactics combining firepower and mobility and use these to great effect in both urban combat zones and trench clearing.

Unit Distictions:
Infantry:
Grenadiers (Stormtroops)
Line Infantry
Jägers (Light Infantry)
Pioneers (Combat Engineers)
Heavy Weapons

Artillery/Armor:
Super Heavy Detachment
Sentinel Squadron
Tank Kompanie
Siege Kompanie
Heavy Artillery
Artillery

Ranks ‘Isenherz’:
Field Marshall (Commands Korps)
General (Commands Kampfgruppe/Combat Battalion)
Colonel/Oberst (Commands Kampfgruppe/Combat Battalion)
Major (Commands Infantry Battalion)
Captain/Hauptmann (Commands Infantry Kompanie)
Quartermaster (Medic/Quartermaster/Priest)
1st Lieutenant/ 1st Leutnant (Commands Platoon)
2nd Lieutenant/ 2nd Leutnant (Commands Platoon)
Sergeant/Watchmaster/Ridemaster (Commands Sqaud)
Lance Corporal/ Sturmann/(Lanze Feldjäger)
Corporal/ (Feldjäger)
Private First Class (PFC)/ Fusilier 1st Class/(Jäger 1st Class)
Private/Fusilier/(Jäger)
Trooper

Ranks ‘Isenblüt’:
ARTILLERY
Colonel/Oberst (Commands Siege Kompanie)
Major (Commands Große Battery)
Captain/ Gun Captain (Commands a Battery/Große Battery)
Quartermaster
Sergeant/ Gunnery Sergeant (Commands 1 gun)
Senior Gunner (Crew)
Gunner (Crew)

ARMOUR
Colonel/Oberst der Rustung (Commands Assault Kompanie)
Major (Commands Super Heavy Attachments/Tank Kompanie)
Captain/Panzer/Tank/Armor Captain (Commands Tank Kompanie)
Quartermaster/Armorer (Super Heavy Attachments)
Lieutenant/ Tank Commander (Commands Tank Squadron)
Sergeant (eqiv)/ Rüstungmeister (Commands 1 tank)
Driver (Crew)
Trooper (Crew)

**Note on Quartermaster: The quartermaster fills a special role in the 501st as a medic/Techpriest/Quartermaster/Priest and in Armored units a tactical advisor similar to a Commissar.
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Ok up first in this Army of Epic Proportions is my Mortar Squad as I'd like to get them into a game to see if they are as good as their big brothers the Heavy Mortars.

I also need to perfect my Isenblut Scheme so that I can field more of these guys.

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Ok I've Decided to add another tank Squad thanks to Sister Sin's inspiration of the Panzer-esque Leman Russes. I think I'll make these vanquishers as well thugh a bit different from the 3 I have in Squad Wallenstein. These tanks will either accompany the Pioneers or fall in with the Isenblut.

I'm currently working on my Demolisher and finishing up building the mortar squad.

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Baron, let me know if you need pics and/od diagrams of Panzer III's or VI's. I have plenty. I also have a couple of the Tamiya and Dragon 1/35 Panzer 3's and 4's for reference.
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