Drop Pod - Contesting objectives?

[Ikarus]

Rules state that ANY unit can contest an objective.

So if i drop pod a unit into an objective, would the drop pod, essentially, if not destroyed, hold the objective?

If so, that is such a mean tactic.

[Spartan-11755]

Is the Drop pod not a Dedicated Transport?

I thought Dedicated Transports did not hold and or Contest.

[TheKiller333]

Does the drop pod actually count as a unit anymore? ;-;

[DuskRaider]

It doesn't. A scoring unit has to be an actual troop, not their transport.

[JoeGuardsman]

I believe it might be able to contest. This is a pain but think about Annihilate where it also gives up a kill point. Annihilate as much as it kills me as a Guard player I understand it's place for game balance. The Guard codex just needs something to tweak the insane amount of easy kill points.

A drop pod army will have to survive Annihilate by forcing the opponent to be so worried about the troops coming out that they can't afford to target the pods. In an objective contest it won't be too difficult to destroy a drop pod. One destroyed roll or two minor damages and it is gone anyway.

[TheKiller333]

Drop pod shouldn't count as kill points.. or did I read that wrong? If it does that's just ridiculous.

[JoeGuardsman]

As far as I can tell right now it is a unit and so would be a kill point. Rhinos are also kill points. Anything that can at any point in time act independently of anything else is a kill point and a unit able to contest.

[Spartan-11755]

so I checked and "ANY" Unit can contest any objective >.<

[DuskRaider]

I didn't think vehicles could contest objectives in 5th.

[Scoutmaster477]

I am going to have to make time to get my copy of 5th edition. Seems like lots of rules changes.

[Vlad Von Carstein]

They can, anything can...also transports can CAPTURE Objective's since they count as troop choices.....

[Bremmer925]

If a Troop choice is a vehicle or a swarm, it can not claim objectives. It can contest them, however.
Parker

[dragonlady]

Can an Immobilized unit contest an objective?

Remember that as soon as the Drop Pod pops, it is immediately counted as Immobilized.

[Vlad Von Carstein]

Originally Posted by Bremmer925

If a Troop choice is a vehicle or a swarm, it can not claim objectives. It can contest them, however.
Parker

not according to staff...but this guy is known to cheat.

[DuskRaider]

Well, instead of relying on staff, rely on the book. That's what it's there for.

[Bremmer925]

Originally Posted by Vlad Von Carstein

not according to staff...but this guy is known to cheat.

According to page 90, second column under " SCORING UNITS", the first exception listed is vehicles and the second is swarms. I can't think of anything the "staff" might say that could over rule that.

And, when have I been " known to cheat"?
Parker

[dragonlady]

The question isn't whether its a scoring unit - as said vehicles are not (right in the rulebook), but the question is whether it contests. Because most things, though not scoring by themselves, do contest a scoring units possession of an objective.

[Bremmer925]

With the scenarios in the book, it would seem that a drop pod would contest. They do specify that "any unit, scoring or not" can contaest. However, in a scenario that is different than the 3 they list ( Cities of Death comes to mind) the players could determine that for themselves.
Parker

[phil]

only infantry can contest oblectives, NO vehicles or swarm units

embarked infantry can contest objectives if the transport is within 3" of the objective but otherwise vehicles cant.

[Vlad Von Carstein]

Originally Posted by Bremmer925

According to page 90, second column under " SCORING UNITS", the first exception listed is vehicles and the second is swarms. I can't think of anything the "staff" might say that could over rule that.

And, when have I been " known to cheat"?
Parker

i meant the staff member and he claims its steel legions special rule...

[Warmaster Romulas]

the way i read it
any unit can contest
not vehicles though
so i would say that a drop pod cannot contest an objective
but i may be wrong

[dragonlady]

Your right, in the mission itself it says:

You control an objective if there is at least one of your scoring units, and no enemy unit (any unit, whether scoring or not), within 3" of it.

(emphasis mine).

This seems rather straight forward!

So even though the Drop pod is immobilized it still will contest!

[Ikarus]

oh joy of some great fun I'm going to have drop podding 3 dreadnoughts.

[Warmaster Romulas]

Originally Posted by Ikarus

oh joy of some great fun I'm going to have drop podding 3 dreadnoughts.

it would be even better if the reserve role didnt allow them to come in till near the end

[Vlad Von Carstein]

Originally Posted by DuskRaider

Well, instead of relying on staff, rely on the book. That's what it's there for.

They claim the book is wrong, hence why i have a print out of the new eldar errata for my swooping hawk trick.

[Baron Spikey]

The Staff can say the book is wrong till they're blue in the face but until GW bangs out a FAQ the book is 100% correct.