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Blog Entries: 1  |  Couple of new dex questions 1. Do I have to have a iconbearer to give a unit a mark?, for example, I have a squad of Bezerkers, but do they have to have a banner of Khorne? 2. Can daemons be summoned while the iconbearer is mounted in a transport? 3. Is a boltpistol a rapid fire weapon?
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any unit can take the icon of khorne and gain the benifits from it while the icon bearer is still alive. (he is treated as a 'heavy/special weapon' trooper for the purposes of shooting & close combat.) 2) IIRC, no. to summon lesser daemons, the icon must be present on the table at the start of the chaos player's turn. 3) as DC pointed out, the word "pistol" should make it clear it's not a "rapid fire" weapon!  (re-read the rules for pistols on pg29 BBB - second paragraph...) cheers!
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Blog Entries: 1 | Does it cost anything to give a unit a mark? Can't find it anywhere. Also, are Chosen the only PA models that can be given a pair of Lightning Claws now?
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Blog Entries: 5  | 1. cant give units marks, only icons (which grant the mark) and yes, it costs. 2. I believe that chosen are all that can have lightning claws aside from lords.
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Blog Entries: 4 | as for giving a unit a mark, the cost of the mark is the cost of the icon. Chosen and Chaos Lords can take lightening claws in PA as far as I know...
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Blog Entries: 5 | Raptor champs can as well. Stitch... Can you review my new Chaos list? Your wise advice would be appreciated, as the more I think of it, the more uncomfy I am w/ it.
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and sure thing! i'll get to it in a bit after i've built my 5-man tac squad. cheers!
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Blog Entries: 5 | they dont have the option for an icon And i disagree stich icons are better as you can use them to teleport and summon daemons. and they are troops
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2. NO. any land raider you take is HS.
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Blog Entries: 4 | 1k sons and Berserkers don't need icons and don't have the option. They have the mark of Tzeentch and Khorne included in their profile.
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 | all these answers are in the codex. why don't you just buy that and find out yourself? on a more helpful note; YES, if an icon is INSIDE a transport, it CAN still be used. The unit that is appearing on the battlefield counts as if it were deepstriking and must arrive withing 6 inches of the vehicle and will NOT scatter.
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as they already bear the actual mark of their patron god, they cannot take an icon of chaos. (the mark itself confers better bonuses!) generally, all other units have the option to take an icon of chaos... similar to a mark of chaos, but the icon bearer is treated as a heavy/special weapons trooper so if he dies, then youy entire squad loses the benifit of the icon... and yes, all cult troops are now Troops choices, so you can still have 'oodles of 'zerkers for example alond with other units bearing say, icons of khorne. cheers!
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Blog Entries: 1 | Thanks guys. LC Erus helped me solve the Bezerker problem. Hey Steve, you sure Abby's LR wouldn't count as dedicated? He is in Terminator armour. I'll probably just Deep Strike him, but I want to now if the dedicated LR is feasible. Now another question. How do I calculate the points cost of a squad of EC termies? Do I use the base cost of EC and add the points for termie armour? Sorry for being such a tard! Hey LC, check out page 81 under Icons and Deep Strike and page 61 under Lesser Daemons for the rules about icons mounted in armour.
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| unless abbadon can take a retinue of chosen who are allowed to choose a land raider as a transport option, then he cannot take one... (ie: IC's on their own, w/out retinues never have transport options!) you're asking about emperor's children termies??? the answer is no. there are no more actual 'cult' terminators... terminators can simply buy an icon of chaos to gain the similar effects of a mark. (ie: +I for a termie unit w/icon of slaanesh) cheers!
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if he has a power toy & power fist, then you may choose which to use each combat phase as your 'main' weapon. (the other will simply count as an additional ccw) so for example, against massed troops, you'd likely want to use the power toy and strike with your, (likely), higher I. against say a wraithlord, then you'd obviously take the power fist as your main weapon as S4 cannot even wound T8! cheers!
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happy? EDIT: to quote the codex - The Tyrants Claw: The Tyrants Claw is a monstrous, bear-like bionic arm and shoulder that was built to replace Huron's own arm. The Claw is a power fist that incorporates a built-in heavy flamer. |
