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Old 11-22-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Right, as some of you know i am converting my Space Marine army to a CSM army. The list below is using the old codex, and somethings i'm not sure about, so i'll need all you chaos nuts out there to help me! I've heard the new codex has no armoury, so you'll have to correct choices that aren't allowed.

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Chaos Lord - Gasparus Ezekius 126 Pts
Daemonic Armour
Meltagun
Power Weapon
Frag Grenades
Spiky Bits


Chaos Sorceror - Azekial Tauor 110pts
Chaos Sorceror
Plasma Pistol
Power Weapon
Familiar
Spiky Bits
Minor Psycic Powers


Troops

CSM Squad -Vitiosus (Corrupt) 81pts
Aspiring Champion w/CC Weapon, Bolt Pistol
3x CSM w/Bolter
1x CSM w/Missile Launcher


CSM Squad -Excessum (Death) 205pts
Aspiring Champion w/Power Fist, Bolt Pistol.
3x CSM w/Bolter
1x CSM w/Missile Launcher
Chaos Rhino - Conscindo (Tearer, as in, ripper) 110pts
Extra Armour
Mutated Hull
Living Vehicle
Dozer Blade


CSM Squad -Oblivio (Oblivion) 97pts
Aspiring Champion w/CC Weapon, Bolt Pistol
3x CSM w/Bolter 4
1x CSM w/Missile Launcher


Elites

Chaos Terminator Squad-Pullus 210pts(Black/Sadness)
1x Chosen Terminator Captain w/Combi-Bolter, Power Sword
4x Chosen Terminators w/Combi-Bolter, Lightning Claw.


Vehicles

Chaos Predator -Oblittero (Canceller, Obliterator) 160pts
Autocannon
2x Heavy Bolter
Mutated Hull
Living Vehicles



Overall: 1079 Points

I know alot will be lacking/wrong. Thanks everyone in advance.
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Right, as some of you know i am converting my Space Marine army to a CSM army. The list below is using the old codex, and somethings i'm not sure about, so i'll need all you chaos nuts out there to help me! I've heard the new codex has no armoury, so you'll have to correct choices that aren't allowed.
You may want to get yourself a copy, some crucial differences from what I've heard (I only have the latest version).

Also, whilst a number of them are kinda obsolete now, not all of them are - thus you should not be posting any individual items points costs, as the forum rules state.

A first note is that every single CSM model comes with frag and krak grenades included in their cost, they are no longer an optional upgrade.

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Chaos Lord - Gasparus Ezekius
Daemonic Armour
Meltagun
Power Weapon
Frag Grenades
Spiky Bits


Chaos Sorceror - Azekial Tauor
Chaos Sorceror
Plasma Pistol
Power Weapon
Familiar
Spiky Bits
Minor Psychic Powers
Spiky Bits and Daemonic Armour no longer exist, there is now a range of Psychic powers available, each costs a differnt number of points. I presume by Meltagun you mean Combi-melta?


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Troops

CSM Squad -Vitiosus (Corrupt)
Aspiring Champion w/CC Weapon, Bolt Pistol
3x CSM w/Bolter
1x CSM w/Missile Launcher


CSM Squad -Excessum (Death)
Aspiring Champion w/Power Fist, Bolt Pistol
3x CSM w/Bolter
1x CSM w/Missile Launcher
Chaos Rhino - Conscindo (Tearer, as in, ripper) 110pts
Extra Armour
Mutated Hull
Living Vehicle
Dozer Blade


CSM Squad -Oblivio (Oblivion)
Aspiring Champion w/CC Weapon, Bolt Pistol
3x CSM w/Bolter
1x CSM w/Missile Launcher
As said before, all CSM come pre-equipped with frag & krak grenades - basic marines (+ Chosen and Havocs) come with all three of Bolter, Bolt Pistol and CCW.
Your points costs are off in this section by quite a bit.
Living Vehicle is replaced with Daemonic Possession(I presume), Mutated Hull no longer exists. There is a new rule called Repair that all CSM vehicles have.
Dozer Blade + Extra Armour are fine.


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Elites

Chaos Terminator Squad-Pullus (Black/Sadness)
1x Chosen Terminator Captain w/Combi-Bolter, Power Sword
4x Chosen Terminators w/Combi-Bolter, Lightning Claw.
this is fine and still legal, tho i suspect the points are different

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Chaos Predator -Oblittero (Canceller, Obliterator)
Autocannon
2x Heavy Bolter
Mutated Hull
Living Vehicles
refer to what i said already about mutated hull and living vehicle

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Overall: 1079 Points

I know a lot will be lacking/wrong. Thanks everyone in advance.
The easiest solution is to go and buy (or acquire by other, less legal, means) a copy of the codex and give it a good read, there's a number of goodies in it and you'll have a much better idea of how the army now works - such as the squad icons that everyone loves.
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definatly need the latest dex my friend, but as far as the old dex goes...



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Right, as some of you know i am converting my Space Marine army to a CSM army. The list below is using the old codex, and somethings i'm not sure about, so i'll need all you chaos nuts out there to help me! I've heard the new codex has no armoury, so you'll have to correct choices that aren't allowed.

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Chaos Lord - Gasparus Ezekius 126 Pts
Daemonic Armour
Meltagun
Power Weapon
Frag Grenades
Spiky Bits


unfortunatly this cat can't have a melta gun. the best he can manage is i combi melta which is one shot/game with the melta part. otherwise fairly groovy.

Chaos Sorceror - Azekial Tauor 110pts
Chaos Sorceror
Plasma Pistol
Power Weapon
Familiar
Spiky Bits
Minor Psycic Powers


needs a major power or 2. drop the minor powers as they suck big time!

Troops

CSM Squad -Vitiosus (Corrupt) 81pts
Aspiring Champion w/CC Weapon, Bolt Pistol
3x CSM w/Bolter
1x CSM w/Missile Launcher


fine and dandy

CSM Squad -Excessum (Death) 205pts
Aspiring Champion w/Power Fist, Bolt Pistol.
3x CSM w/Bolter
1x CSM w/Missile Launcher
Chaos Rhino - Conscindo (Tearer, as in, ripper) 110pts
Extra Armour
Mutated Hull
Living Vehicle
Dozer Blade


a few points to make...firstly, the squad is very small to be ferried about in a rhino. think about merging them together with one of the other squads. also, consider swapping the missile launcher for a special weapon or 2

secondly, the rhino itself is way to expensive for what it does. extra armour and smoke is all you need, maybe a dozer blade if you're worried about terrain


CSM Squad -Oblivio (Oblivion) 97pts
Aspiring Champion w/CC Weapon, Bolt Pistol
3x CSM w/Bolter 4
1x CSM w/Missile Launcher


fine and dandy

Elites

Chaos Terminator Squad-Pullus 210pts(Black/Sadness)
1x Chosen Terminator Captain w/Combi-Bolter, Power Sword
4x Chosen Terminators w/Combi-Bolter, Lightning Claw.


why the power weapon in a squad of lightning claws? otherwise groovy

Vehicles

Chaos Predator -Oblittero (Canceller, Obliterator) 160pts
Autocannon
2x Heavy Bolter
Mutated Hull
Living Vehicles


swap living vehicle for parasitic possession and this tank becomes nigh unkillable!!!

Overall: 1079 Points

I know alot will be lacking/wrong. Thanks everyone in advance.
as long as your opponent is ok with you using the out of date dex this list will do with a few revisions.
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Thanks. I'll make a new list sooner or later with the new dex. But the only person i ever play against is my sister or her boyfriend, so they won't moan.
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actually, the rhino, is an absolute steal on its own. If truly worried, go for a havoc launcher to give it some punch, but otherwise, extra armour should be enough. Comes with a twin bolter, searchlights and smoke launchers as standard.
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Chaos Lord - Lucius Acutus 159 Pts
Daemonic Armour
Combi-Bolter
Dark Blade
Frag Grenades
Spiky Bits
Daemonic Flight

Chaos Sorceror - Azekial Tauor 160pts
Chaos Sorceror
Daemonic Flight
Plasma Pistol
Power Weapon
Familiar
Spiky Bits
Doombolt
Mass Mutation

Troops

CSM Squad -Excessum (Death) 230pts
Aspiring Champion w/Power Fist, Bolt Pistol.
6x CSM w/Bolter
1x CSM w/Missile Launcher
1x CSM w/Flamer
1x CSM w/CC weapon, Bolt Pistol
(I may add in a few other CC weapons here, but that'll be when i convert)
Chaos Rhino - Conscindo (Tearer, as in, ripper) 90pts
Extra Armour
Mutated Hull
Dozer Blade

CSM Squad -Oblivio (Oblivion) 97pts
Aspiring Champion w/CC Weapon, Bolt Pistol
3x CSM w/Bolter 4
1x CSM w/Missile Launcher
(May add more marines depending if i can find some more laying about)

Elites

Chaos Terminator Squad- Pullus (Black/Sadness) 210pts
1x Chosen Terminator Captain w/Combi-Bolter, Power Sword (Because I'm not extremely good at converting, and would mess up the weapon change. Awkward Termies.)
4x Chosen Terminators w/Combi-Bolter, Lightning Claw.

Vehicles

Chaos Predator -Oblittero (Canceller, Obliterator) 180pts
Autocannon
2x Heavy Bolter
Mutated Hull
Parasitic Possession

Aiming for: 1000 points
Currently: 1016 points
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keep in mind that when you do finally get the new codex, you can't have a heavy weapon or 2nd special weapon option unless the squad numbers a minimum of 10 chaos marines...

also, why spend 110pts on a non-scoring dedicated transport?! just stick to extra armour + smoke launchers... perhaps a dozer blade if you expect to drive through alot of cover quite often!

finally, consider the fact that chaos termies can now take a pair of lightning claws! my perfered set-up under the new codex would typically be;
- champ w/pair of lightning claws
- termie w/heavy flamer & chainfist
- 2x termies w/pair of lightning claws
- 2x termies w/combi-plasam & power fists
a nice little deep striking unit which will hold out against most opponents and has solid combat abilities between re-rolls & S8 hits.

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As i said, this list will be for people who dont mind me using the older one. The new one, when i get it, will be with those uptight people that refuse. =] And on the Rhino subject, its because my usual crew HATE the chaos marines, and will aim to take them out. Plus, if the Rhino & crew are destroyed, then i've got 9 men down the drain.
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So you got the new dex yet Killer?
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