Girlfriend chose Chaos

[Dragoon King]

Has she chosen a color scheme yet?

[Biadetic]

ahh, possessed with moark of tzeentch... they already got a 5+ inv save dont they? i dont got my codex handy
that would give them a 4+ inv save
plus theeir special abilities is awesome, i manged to roll for Rending against Marines, massacre ^^ lol


BTW, has this new codex been confirmed ?!??? for the coming spring i mean????
alot of people are syaing "hold off demons" etc but i woldnt bother unless the new dex was coming relatively soon. if its over a year away you might as well build a demon now and another the next year...if anything itll help your skills ^^
I'll put off buying the balrog until someone tells me that the demon dex is coming soon officially....

[Cirative]

Originally Posted by Biadetic

BTW, has this new codex been confirmed ?!??? for the coming spring i mean????
alot of people are syaing "hold off demons" etc but i woldnt bother unless the new dex was coming relatively soon. if its over a year away you might as well build a demon now and another the next year...if anything itll help your skills ^^
I'll put off buying the balrog until someone tells me that the demon dex is coming soon officially....

Dude I don't even think the Chaos codex itself has been confirmed by GW, never mind its release date. I've heard plenty of rumors about it and people say it's coming, but I've seen no confirmation from GW that it's being released (or that it's in the works).

[Biadetic]

oh, pity
let the demon building commence then !

[Cirative]

So for the Daemon Prince's psychic powers, I suggested these three combinations to my girlfriend:

Doombolt + Bolt of Change
Warptime + Doombolt
Warptime + Bolt of Change

Any suggestions/advice?

[Biadetic]

i think id go warptime + doombolt.
want to keep it shooty effective i think and then allow his natural normal CC skills as they are ^^
keeping with tzeentch ye know.

[Cirative]

Originally Posted by Biadetic

i think id go warptime + doombolt.

If I read it correctly, with Warptime the DP would be able to re-roll any failed hits with his Doombolt (Assault 3), right?

[Biadetic]

hmmm you can only use one physic power per turn?

[Cirative]

Originally Posted by Biadetic

hmmm you can only use one physic power per turn?

With Mark of Tzeentch you can use up to two per turn, but only one may be a psychic weapon.

So the way I see it, she'd use Warptime first and then Doombolt. If both psychic tests are successful, she'd be able to re-roll any failed Doombolt hits.

[Ides]

But if he has mark of tseentch, why not give him bolt of change? Far more deadly and versatile methinks...

[Cirative]

Originally Posted by Ides

But if he has mark of tseentch, why not give him bolt of change? Far more deadly and versatile methinks...

Well, let's compare stats here:
Doombolt (10pts) = 18" S4 AP3 A3
Bolt of Change (25pts) = 24" S8 AP1 A1

They're both fairly powerful powers, and Bolt of Change is more powerful, but Doombolt has more shots.

Basically, Doombolt could be compared to a heavy bolter, and Bolt of Change could be compared to a multi-melta.

So rather than taking out only one troop at a time, he could potentially take out three. Giving Warptime to Doombolt would help ensure that all three shots hit their target.

[Ides]

If you have the points I'd go for both. Use Doombolt for those pesky ground-pounders and keep bolt of change for the larger gribblies and tanks that cross your path.

[Biadetic]

thats a plan, but what about warptime.... we wantr them all !!!!! :'( lol

[Inquisitor Rosenadel]

Originally Posted by Ides

If you have the points I'd go for both. Use Doombolt for those pesky ground-pounders and keep bolt of change for the larger gribblies and tanks that cross your path.

Originally Posted by Biadetic

thats a plan, but what about warptime.... we wantr them all !!!!! :'( lol

I'd think the Doombolt/Warptime combo would be best. Let something else deal with the big stuff, like Terminators, or a Predator if you can take one (I'm not too familiar with the new codex).

Plus, Doombolt is only one shot. So if it misses, then your Sorcerer is probably in trouble.

[Ides]

mark of tzeentch means you can take three psychic powers.

[Cirative]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor Rosenadel

Plus, Doombolt is only one shot. So if it misses, then your Sorcerer is probably in trouble.

I think you meant to say Bolt of Changes.

Originally Posted by Ides

mark of tzeentch means you can take three psychic powers.

Incorrect.

Excerpt: "... A Daemon Prince may be a psyker by taking one of the following psychic powers (models with the Mark of Tzeentch may take up to two)."

[Ides]

ah, my mistake.

[Biadetic]

may take up to two?
but can he use two per turn?
((if so could you just quote it, i havent got my codex at home atm )

[Cirative]

Originally Posted by Biadetic

may take up to two?
but can he use two per turn?
((if so could you just quote it, i havent got my codex at home atm )

Excerpt: "A psyker may only attempt to use one psychic power per turn. The only exception to this is a model with the Mark of Tzeentch, which can attempt to use up to two psychic powers per player turn (but not two powers that both count as firing a weapon, as models can only fire one weapon per Shooting phase)."

[Lord Erak Grimnar]

Originally Posted by Biadetic

may take up to two?
but can he use two per turn?
((if so could you just quote it, i havent got my codex at home atm )

sure under Psychic Powers in the wargear sections

quote "...a model with the Mark of Tzeentch, which can attempt to use up to two psychic powers per player turn (but not tow powers that both count as firing a weapon...)

[Biadetic]

ah sorry, cheers !
**must go off and read codex more thouroughly (sp??? lol) **

[Cirative]

Another question: Since the Chaos codex lets you mix and match with god-specific unit types (Khorne Berzerkers, Thousand Sons, Noise Marines, Plague Marines) does that mean you may also freely choose special characters, like Abaddon the Despoiler? Or is he restricted to a certain legion?

[Lord Erak Grimnar]

Originally Posted by Cirative

Another question: Since the Chaos codex lets you mix and match with god-specific unit types (Khorne Berzerkers, Thousand Sons, Noise Marines, Plague Marines) does that mean you may also freely choose special characters, like Abaddon the Despoiler? Or is he restricted to a certain legion?

There doesnt appear to be restrictions like that but I can't seem to find the normal rules assossiated with special characters such as only in a 2000 pt armies.

Can anyone else confirm this I can't seem to find restrictions on special chracters in any of the new dexes.

[Cirative]

Well they removed certain restrictions on special characters, such as having to ask your opponent to use them, but I don't see anything about having a minimum points army in order to field them either.

Like in the SM codex, for example, it says something to the effect of, "Marneus Calgar may be taken in an Ultramarines force of 1500 points or more."

But there's no specific legion or points-value required to field Chaos special characters, from what I see.

[Lord Commander Erus]

I know Dave Taylor, and at least 3-4 other GW poster byos and big wigs have confirmed the daemon dex. And they are showin the new models to be released with it nxt sping. It's been confirmed for a while now.. Stitch would likely know the who and the why though.

[Cirative]

Well that's good to hear.

Will it be an expansion to CSM, or a stand-alone expansion to introduce an all-Daemon (non-CSM) army?