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| Destruction Manifest     Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Loyall, Kentucky
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12-20-2007
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| Corporal   Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Behind enemy lines
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| Another reason i want to switch races is because Space marines are probably by far getting the worst nerf. -No more customization for command squads -No more armory -People complained about assault cannons so now the access to them is very limited. -Assault marines can no longer take melta bombs -No more chapter traits -Wtf is combat squads good for? occupying a razorback and dying from a battlecannon first turn. -Lords will most likely not have retinues like the chaos dex. -Just look at the Blood and Dark angels codex, that'll show you how far we've fallen. And people like 626, whom i respect but disagree with will state its more balanced. There's balance and then there is underpowered. Space marines--->Underpowered with the new release
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12-20-2007
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| Oh i've always hated that maggot ridden husk of a shell of a former glory, I just never acted on impulse. Him and the rest of those imperial dogs can burn along with Games workshop for ruining the ruinous powers for the last time!
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| Filthy, Dirty Radical     Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: lost in a blizzard, somewhere near toronto!
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| well in all honesty, if it wasn't for the fact that lucas is the *only* other staffer out of the soo-to-be 6 of us at GW burlington who play chaos, i'd play chaos too! as for the space marines getting their fix; a) ass-cans are stupid good... no ranged weapon should have EVER! had rending. so, the only thing to do is up the pts cost and limit the numbers people can take. b) combat squads is game-winning when you know how to use it well! let's look at an example; devastator squad w/2x heavy bolter + 2x lascannons. so, now you can break them down into seperate 5-man squads. now you get more use out of both the lascannons & the heavy bolters. now you have 2 seperate scoring units. now your opponent has double the threats to try and eliminate! a huge plus in my mind - you can effectively have 6 devastator squads in a space marine army!  c) cheaper transports... rhinos aren't a pts sink & razorbacks are finally playable and have a defined role. (ferry around the special weapon trooper & attached IC!) space marines are by no means underpowered - they're simply a bit more difficult to use as it should be! i don't know about anyone else, but i'm utterly sick and tired of getting my ass handed to me by 9-year-old toe-rags who's parents buy them 9 tornadoes & 3 termie squads... sorry, but taking 12+ ass-cans isn't proving you can play the game - only that you're a jerk who cares only for winning at all costs! (especially when 99.9% of the runts then brag about how good they are and about how your army sucks big time!) cheers!
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12-20-2007
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| I know assault cannons are broken, no argument there. But why did the codex creators have to take away everything else that seperated my army from other generics and such? With the release of the new codex i'm going to be forced into combat squads (Which for good reasons, is still useless) Nerfing all my sergeants by having to replace their weaponry (No combi-weapons for assualt sergeants) Nerfing my prized terminator collection to small 5 man attention getters. Nerfing my command squad Nerfing my ability to stand apart from other armies. NERF NERF NERf and combat squads suck becuase splitting the squad apart only makes the squad more vulnerable to casualties and leadership tests, not to mention the CC rapage if they got into CC with a full squad of CSM (Who i play the most)
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| To respond to a post a little while back you can assault with terminators after the deep strike. but only when you use an icon to bring them in. it says so in the icon special rules. so putting an icon on the bikes and jetting across the board does work. I'm just not sure how well |
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| Kriegsmeister    Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ohio, still waiting for a GW Store.
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| See when I run into these issues I make my own rules... I was also dissapointed with the lack of customization compared to Space Marines for my Night Lords. I wanted to tool up my commander with all sorts of cool stuff like my Black Templars but I really dont see much option since I'm not really afiliating him with any Chaos God.
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| Yes of course I was merely comparing the two... sorry for the confusion
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