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Old 10-31-2007   #1 (permalink)
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So I have been a hardcore Chaos Follower for many years. My major army is the evil Iron Warriors. With the coming of the new codex I have been tempted to make an Iron Warriors army that worships slaanesh. The thought of all my little hellions sporting sonic blasters makes me giddy with bloodshed and glee....

So here is my sample list for you heathens to pick apart.

160-Warsmith Titus the Uncaring, Scourge of the Imperium.
Sorcerer w/ Mark of Slaanesh, Steed of Slaanesh, meltabombs, force weapon,
bolt pistol and Lash of Submission (psychic power)

185-Noise Marines (6)
5 Sonic Blaster and 1 Blaster Master

185-Noise Marines (6)
5 Sonic Blaster and 1 Blaster Master

240-Noise Marines (8)
7 Sonic Blasters, Champion w/ Doom Siren, power weapon

240-Noise Marines (8)
7 Sonic Blasters, Champion w/ Doom Siren, power weapon

240-Raptors (8)
Icon of Slaanesh, 2 meltaguns. 5 Bolt pistol & ccw, Champion w/lightning
claws

145-Vindicator tank
Extra armor, combi-bolter

175-Predator tank
Turret Lascannon, sponson heavy bolters, havoc launcher, dozer blade,
Dirgecastor, extra armor

175-Predator tank
Turret Lascannon, sponson heavy bolters, havoc launcher, dozer blade,
Dirgecastor, extra armor

Tactics are very simple: the 3 tanks will take up one side of the board and flank the enemy. All the troops will move and shoot, advancing on the enemy and killing anything in the firing lanes. The raptors can deep strike and kill armor, or they can start on the board and go hunting (armor, special characters, etc.) Lastly we have the lord, who will not only look cool, but will also go hunting (special characters, annoying enemy squads, objective points, etc.)

I believe that this version of my Iron Warriors may work very well. My old army was very static, it did not move a lot and I tended to defended more than I wanted too. Will the addition of sonic blasters all my troops can move and shoot at their max range. Well tell me what you think.
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I like the list over all. The Raptors are a nice counter assault unit, and the right amount of armour should balance out for some support.

However I just cant find it reasonable to spend 240 points on one unit. Try and shrink that down, you dont need 7 sonic blasters, nor do I think you can legally have that many.
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you dont need 7 sonic blasters, nor do I think you can legally have that many.
You can, but i would not recomed it either.

Personally i like the list but for a 1750 list you have a grand total of

34 Models. not nearly enough.
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Ok.. Being the great Chaos nut that I am, and the devout follower of the Lord of Pleasure, here I go. I will seek to balance this list with Slaanesh and Iron Warriors Fluff.

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So I have been a hardcore Chaos Follower for many years. My major army is the evil Iron Warriors. With the coming of the new codex I have been tempted to make an Iron Warriors army that worships slaanesh. The thought of all my little hellions sporting sonic blasters makes me giddy with bloodshed and glee....

So here is my sample list for you heathens to pick apart.

160-Warsmith Titus the Uncaring, Scourge of the Imperium.
Sorcerer w/ Mark of Slaanesh, Steed of Slaanesh, meltabombs, force weapon, bolt pistol and Lash of Submission (psychic power)

Loose the melta bombs on the sorc. No need. He's character hunting only. If you're worried about him getting stuck in with armor, switch the steed out for wings and have raptors w/ a power fist follow.

185-Noise Marines (6)
5 Sonic Blaster and 1 Blaster Master

Still keeping to cult numbers!! GOOD MAN! I am liking you! I would however, loose the blastmaster. Heresy, I know, but it's just not worth the price. 40 pts is a lot. Throw in something that's a bit more flexible, or just have 6 sonic blasters.

185-Noise Marines (6)
5 Sonic Blaster and 1 Blaster Master

Same as above. Do that and you've got 60 pts. Neice bit.

240-Noise Marines (8)
7 Sonic Blasters, Champion w/ Doom Siren, power weapon

Down grade to Six (including champion). Keeps fluff, AND gives you more pts.

240-Noise Marines (8)
7 Sonic Blasters, Champion w/ Doom Siren, power weapon

Same as above.

240-Raptors (8)
Icon of Slaanesh, 2 meltaguns. 5 Bolt pistol & ccw, Champion w/lightning
claws

I'd say flamers would fit better givin the claws on the champion. Or one of each to make sure they're more multi purpose, as raptors are best at being.

145-Vindicator tank
Extra armor, combi-bolter

175-Predator tank
Turret Lascannon, sponson heavy bolters, havoc launcher, dozer blade,
Dirgecastor, extra armor

Drop the havoc launcher. Not really worth the pts.

175-Predator tank
Turret Lascannon, sponson heavy bolters, havoc launcher, dozer blade,
Dirgecastor, extra armor

Again, drop the havoc. Not worth the pts.

Tactics are very simple: the 3 tanks will take up one side of the board and flank the enemy. All the troops will move and shoot, advancing on the enemy and killing anything in the firing lanes. The raptors can deep strike and kill armor, or they can start on the board and go hunting (armor, special characters, etc.) Lastly we have the lord, who will not only look cool, but will also go hunting (special characters, annoying enemy squads, objective points, etc.)

I believe that this version of my Iron Warriors may work very well. My old army was very static, it did not move a lot and I tended to defended more than I wanted too. Will the addition of sonic blasters all my troops can move and shoot at their max range. Well tell me what you think.
I would use the deletions I made to put in another squad or so of men, as you can fit that easily, and perhaps even more raptors! Good list though, I just tried to tell you what will work from my experience.
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I have used the havoc launchers to great success in past games so i think they will stay. I will try to rework the numbers with all 6 man squads and maybe I can add a dreadnought, or maybe add another squad
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I took some of your advice and redid the list. I made all the squads 6 man as to tie in more with the slaanesh sacred number, and I also keep my blaster masters (expensive, but o so fluffy). A few other changes, but overall I like the list. Enjoy!

155-Sorcerer lord of Slaanesh
Steed of slaanesh, lash of submission

185 Noise Marines (6)
5 Sonic Blasters, 1 blaster master

185 Noise Marines (6)
5 Sonic Blasters, 1 blaster master

190 Noise marines (6)
5 sonic blasters, champion with doom siren, power weapon

190 Noise marines (6)
5 sonic blasters, champion with doom siren, power weapon

145-Vindicator tank
extra armor, combi-bolter

170-Predator tank
turret twin lascannon, sponson heavy bolters, dozer blade, extra armor,
havoc launcher

170-Predator tank
turret twin lascannon, sponson heavy bolters, dozer blade, extra armor,
havoc launcher

180-Raptors (6)
2 meltaguns, champion with melta bombs, icon of slaanesh

180-Raptors (6)
Champion with lightning claws, icon of slaanesh

Well there you have it 1750 points exactly.
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yea its great having predators and a vindictator but cmon, u need to transport
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List actually looks pretty damn good. About, 42 models if I read correct. For Chaos SM, marked, at 1750, and with significant armor, it's a damned good body count. My advice also would be to purchase another squad of troops, and build it up.

That way, if you're facing an opponent where your tanks won't work (do this in games with your mates, and let them know), or you just want to try a different combo for the hell of it, you can.. List tailoring shouldn't be hid, but this I consider more than ok).

I do like the lists though. Very much! You added in a lot more bodies, plenty of raptors, and very fluffy. Have you given any though to how you'll model these guys yet, to make them look more iron warriors? The sonic blasters before this release might be nice!
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could always up the squad size to ten and give them rhinos, else up them to twelve and keep them on foot as multiples of the sacred number were also acceptable.
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Well i have a full Iron Warriors force now, but I plan to do a ton of arm swaps, so I can get the sonic blasters. I also plan to use the old school raptor models (with the new raptor backpack tough) as I think they look more archaic and ancient. The predators are already done, but I do want to remodel my havoc launchers as I find the current model for them to be too big. The lord is currently in the development and planning stage, but I want to post a work blog, when I get around to actually making him.

As for squad sizes I like to keep my squads under the 10 man mark, unless I plan to run a hoard army or field fire magnets My luck with large squads usually ends with them becoming small squads within a turn or two, lol.

Lastly, Land Raiders are nice but they tend to become fire magnets, I know I destroy them as soon as I can. Plus I like the idea of walking and firing at max range, it makes me feel impowered. I no longer have to leap frog my squads, or worry about who can and can't rapid fire. Everyone can fire at max range all the time! My army is mobile and lethal, daddy just got a brand new bag!
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