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Old 11-23-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default which legion sucks the most?

Like in terms of win/losses,numbers, types of troops, achiments, color scheme, ect, ect.
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i dont think this can be answered... lol. or if so not easily, and not by me anyway

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the foppish emperor's children
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i can't begin to really answer this question but i do know my word bearers have lost alot of steam with the new codex in my opinion.
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There is no worst chaos Legion! Now, if we want it broad and generalised to all space marines, then I would say the Lamenters......
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ok now by worst are you saying by fluff or by what options/capabilites they have? none of them really such on fluff all have something that appeals to one or another chaos player/fan. now in capabilities thats where you can have some argument as in the last 3rd ed codex you still had rules for most of the chaos legions. now with the 4th ed release you have rules for NONE of the legions. oh you can use the 4 god choice units however no matter how many you play you still aren't really playing the legion. suppossedly gw is going to do a "deamon" codex sometime next year which will have legion rules for khorne, tzeentch, nurgle and slanesh. but i'll believe that when i see more on it from them and hear more official word from a developer or a red shirt (you out there stitch?).

now another question. are you asking this to figure out which legion you want to collect/play? if thats it i say pick the one that you like the fluff on most. you can create a grand company or war band from that legion and change the paint scheme if you dont like what gw says thier colors are. thats one great thing with this hobby. you have plenty of room to mess around with stuff like that.

me i'm an Iron warriors and 1000 sons fan. i really enjoy the fluff and feel that these 2 legions were more "forced" to chaos then that they turned because they want to "rule the universe". now i'm not say that in fluff they haven't graviated toward that thought but they started off as feeling put upon or betrayed by the empire and that was thier reason for turning.

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under the 3.5 edition codex, night lords were easily the worst legion in terms of rules... they got extra raptors which were simply over-priced assault marines for the loss of 2 heavy support slots.
rules-wise now, each legion is roughly equal in power... you can build pretty much anything quite easily.

in terms of backstory, i don't think there is a 'worst' legion really! all the traitor legions have cool little plot twists and flaws that make them so tragic and allowed them to become easy prey for the chaos gods!

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all the traitor legions suck

that is my 2 cents
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all the traitor legions suck

that is my 2 cents
why? after first reading this i would say you're jealous or always (mostly?) lose to chaos. one or both or another reason?

it would help alot if you could back this up with why you think this.
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the foppish emperor's children
again another "why".
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Griplion, there`s a thing called multi quote, you can use it by pressing the multi button on each post you want to quote than press reply :P

As to the topic at hand, all traitor legions + dark templars and ultramarines
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1) Agree with Romulas, because traitors suck. end of story. (well, I'll also say that I am part of the inquisition and hate heretics. yeah. wait maybe not the end then)

fluff wise - agrees with stitch

color wise - ergh... I think the old World Eaters and Luna Wolves got totally bummed when it comes to pre-HH color scheme.

I would LIKE to say the EC, but their gold/purple color scheme actually does compliment each other well, and purple isnt bad as long as you keep it from getting to light and thus looking pink. Also, their primarch sort of got totally forced AND suckered into the whole chaos thing, and actually had a moment of "oh god what have i done" at the end, quite awesome.

Though their perfectionistic and condecending ways irk me.

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Nobody said preheresy :P

And yeah, i know they`re not a legion

I jsut felt like reminding people they suck

PH Smurfs were nice, they suck now because every gamestore kid plays them :P EVERY SINGLE ONE :P
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legion = preHH
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Not for everyone :P People still refer to chaos armies as legions
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hmm... truche enough

but how is templars a legion? lmfao.
oh wait, they have tonz o peeps... right...

hehe but officially they are still a chapter ;P
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Read my posts :P

I ecplained everything there is to explain

As for PH legions... have no idea, most were so-so, EC`s were just sisy, but all (future) traitors are simply weaklings!

Luna Wolves seem to be getting the least love

I`ve yet to see people even considering them as an army
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All traitors are worthless. They exist to burn under the bright light of the Imperium before his Holiness the God-Emperor. That said, anyone who is a Noise Marine is definitely the saddest. Pink = Manly went out like 3 years ago, they need to move on.

The only reason the Templars haven't been brought before the Inquisition is because:
A. You'd never find all of them.
B. Noone (except maybe Eisenhorn) could bring them down.
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C. They are bloody awesome, except for some of their actualy rules (but for fluff / color / icon / etc they are AWESOME)
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Right, now that we are done with that...

Alpha Legion.. I love them, but their is so little on them you barely get to know them.
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I have to agree with Erus...Alpha legion is soooo under fluffed and they just kinda don't get a break in the genre...not to mention they are chaos and that in itself is reason enough...LMAO...AL SUCKS!!!!
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